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jmdict 1387180 Active (id: 2193547)
覇王樹 [rK] 仙人掌 [rK]
サボテンシャボテン (仙人掌)
1. [n] [uk]
《サボ, シャボ poss. from Portuguese "sabão"》
▶ cactus
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2855342 覇王樹【はおうじゅ】 1. cactus
  ⇐ see: 2855994 仙人掌【せんにんしょう】 1. cactus



History:
9. A 2022-07-01 08:12:10  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
OK. I did an entry for はおうじゅ.
8. A* 2022-06-30 23:33:40  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
覇王樹	7341	1.0%
仙人掌	10058	1.3%
サボてん	58	0.0%
サボテン	739854	97.7%
  Comments:
Daijr/s, meikyo and nikk only have サボテン/シャボテン as readings. I don't think サボてん/シャボてん are needed.
Koj and nikk have 仙人掌 for シャボテン.
According to the kokugos, the Portuguese etymology is unconfirmed.
はおうじゅ should be a separate obsc entry (as rK only applies to サボテン).
  Diff:
@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +10 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,10 +12,0 @@
-<reb>サボてん</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>はおうじゅ</reb>
-<re_restr>覇王樹</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>シャボてん</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -22 +13,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -26 +17 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
+<re_restr>仙人掌</re_restr>
@@ -30 +20,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
@@ -32 +22 @@
-<s_inf>サボ, シャボ are from Portugese "sabão"</s_inf>
+<s_inf>サボ, シャボ poss. from Portuguese "sabão"</s_inf>
7. A 2021-06-13 22:20:44  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6. A* 2021-06-13 15:25:31  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
daij only have サボテン, koj has サボてん, which seems more correct as a rendition of the kanji considering "てん" is 
Japanese and not Portuguese.
  Comments:
Normally we wouldn't tag a word that's only partially gairaigo with an lsrc. We already have a note, so let's just use 
that.
  Diff:
@@ -11 +11 @@
-<reb>さぼてん</reb>
+<reb>サボてん</reb>
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<reb>しゃぼてん</reb>
+<reb>シャボてん</reb>
@@ -21,0 +22 @@
+<re_nokanji/>
@@ -24,0 +26 @@
+<re_nokanji/>
@@ -30,2 +32 @@
-<s_inf>only the サボ, シャボ, etc. readings are from sabão</s_inf>
-<lsource xml:lang="por">sabão</lsource>
+<s_inf>サボ, シャボ are from Portugese "sabão"</s_inf>
5. A* 2021-06-13 09:30:49 
  Refs:
GG5.
  Comments:
Are the katakana really nokanji?
  Diff:
@@ -17,0 +18,3 @@
+<reb>しゃぼてん</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -19 +21,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -23 +24,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
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