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A 2021-05-06 05:50:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, I know that cicada and locust are not the same, and that 蝉 is a cicada, but many Americans call cicadas "locusts", so JE dictionaries tend to have both. The 中辞典 has "《米》 a locust" in its 蝉 entry. |
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A* 2021-05-06 05:09:03 Hendrik
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https://ag.tennessee.edu/EPP/Pages/cicadas-hale/Common-Misconceptions-.aspx
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/millions-cicadas-emerging-now-united-states
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The gloss "locust" is wrong for this kanji and reading, although many people seem to believe that cicadas are a kind of locust, if we go by the many "debunking" articles about this issue on the web...
By the way, locust is 蝗 コウ or いなご or ばった (same character also in Chinese) |
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A 2016-11-03 09:13:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-11-03 07:07:22 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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A 2013-05-20 22:36:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2013-05-20 20:00:00 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, gg5 |
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+<gloss>small-sized pulley</gloss>
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A 2013-02-03 12:42:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, the comments I made earlier cover it - it's in the entry, but it is NOT the kanji commonly used these days. |
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A* 2013-02-02 22:38:23 Francis
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See below. |
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Nelson states that "蝉" is a non-standard form for "蟬".
Wikipedia puts "蟬" first: "セミ(蟬・蝉)は、"
You have it shown as being included above, but it still does not appear in the main entry as shown below:-
蝉 【せみ(P); セミ】 (n) cicada; locust; (P)
Rene suggested reference tools do not include it. So all in all it is a little confusing for a novice who may have looked at Wikipedia or Nelson first.
Even if "蟬" is not the principal one, maybe it should still be in the main entry; especially as it is already included above. Maybe the problem lies in the data base of kanji because it does not come up on the kanji radical search either.
I hope that is useful.
[Having pressed the "Next button", I see that the matter has already been discussed, but I shall still submit for the additional reference from the novice's point of view.] |
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A 2012-10-26 10:39:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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蟬 is JIS X 0213, so it doesn't show in WWWJDIC, but it's not causing a problem. |
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A 2012-05-15 05:38:06 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-05-12 01:50:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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It doesn't. It *might* be your browser doing it.
蟬 is the old original kanji, and is in JIS X 0213, i.e. I can put it into the database, but it won't get to WWWJDIC as it is not in the (JIS X 0212-compatible) EUC-JP coding.
蝉 is the more simplified kanji that's been used in Japan for ages.
I have added 蟬 as an alternative kanji in the database. |
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A* 2012-05-12 01:38:55 Hendrik
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A question for Jim: how come the database _automatically and without a
comment_ changes the kanji 蟬 (input) to 蝉 (output)? 8-)
Unihan has them as 87EC and 8749, respectively... |