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初めて [ichi1] ；始めて [spec1] ；甫めて [rK]
【はじめて [spec1,ichi1] 】

[adv,adj-no]
▶ for the first time

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1307550 始める 1. to start; to begin; to commence; to initiate; to originate

[adv]
《after the -te form of a verb》
▶ only after ... is it ...
▶ only when ... do you ...
▶ not until ... do you ...

[n] [col]
▶ first time
▶ (one's) first

History:

13.	A 2021-11-13 04:56:07 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	始めて 10101812 はじめて 20198630 甫めて 113 初めて 58930915 はじめて 20198630
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10 @@ +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> @@ -12,0 +14 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -16,0 +19 @@ +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
12.	A 2021-06-01 06:09:23 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK with me.
11.	A* 2021-06-01 05:58:15
	Comments:	I think there's a good case for including (one's) first, which also covers the original amendment
	Diff:	@@ -34,0 +35 @@ +<gloss>(one's) first</gloss>
10.	A 2021-06-01 01:14:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
9.	A* 2021-05-31 23:10:53 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	初めてが 8250 初めてを 6518
	Comments:	I'm OK with a noun sense. We can keep it general. We already have adj-no on sense 1 so I don't think it's needed on the new sense.
	Diff:	@@ -28,0 +29,6 @@ +<gloss>not until ... do you ...</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&col;</misc> +<gloss>first time</gloss>
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8.	A* 2021-05-30 04:18:59
	Refs:	はじめてがいっぱい! 私の初めてが、あなたでよかった当たり前のことですが、すべてのことに初めてがあるのです。
	Comments:	"first time" is a noun, "for the first time" is not. You wouldn't say "my firstly" in English either.　A third sense could maybe look like this: [1][n,adj-no,col] first; first time
7.	A 2021-05-30 03:39:59 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	we'd need a reference to say it's a different sense. in any case, when the context is clear, we say "it was my first time" without further clarification with the exact same meaning in english, so the current glosses seem to work
6.	A* 2021-05-27 01:27:39
	Comments:	I don't know if it should be a separate sense, but it is used as a noun - 私の初めてが...
5.	A 2021-05-27 01:18:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	No response. I think it's just a way of using sense 1.
	Diff:	@@ -30,7 +29,0 @@ -<sense> -<stagk>初めて</stagk> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<misc>&col;</misc> -<gloss>the first time</gloss> -<gloss>the event of losing one's virginity</gloss> -</sense>
4.	A* 2021-05-20 22:54:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	No reference! Is that really a different sense?
3.	A* 2021-05-20 19:48:38 Julius <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -29,0 +30,7 @@ +<sense> +<stagk>初めて</stagk> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&col;</misc> +<gloss>the first time</gloss> +<gloss>the event of losing one's virginity</gloss> +</sense>
2.	A 2011-06-29 04:37:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
1.	A* 2011-06-29 04:35:58 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	merging in 2644230 as a usage note. not nouns
	Diff:	@@ -20,2 +20,2 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> -<xref type="see" seq="1307550">始める</xref> +<pos>&adj-no;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="1307550">始める・1</xref> @@ -26,1 +26,1 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> +<s_inf>after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>

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