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jmdict 1342540 Active (id: 2098627)
始め [ichi1,news1,nf17] ； 初め [ichi1]
【 はじめ [ichi1,news1,nf17] 】
1. [n,adv]
▶ beginning
▶ start
▶ outset
▶ opening
2. [n]
《esp. 初め》
▶ first (in line, etc.)
3. [n]
《esp. 始め》
▶ origin
4. [n] [uk]
《esp. 始め; as 〜を始め, 〜を始めとして, etc.》
▶ such as ...
▶ not to mention ...



History:
8. A 2021-03-31 04:35:01  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Bulk update n-adv to n,adv
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-
  Diff: 
@@ -21 +21,2 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
7. A 2021-03-10 03:26:46  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Bulk update: Removal of n-t POS
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-
  Diff: 
@@ -21 +20,0 @@
-<pos>&n-t;</pos>
6. A 2014-11-10 06:56:58  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
OK. It's really an application of sense 1.
I've added のをはじめ and んをはじめ to the special text-glossing files.
  Diff: 
@@ -45,8 +44,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<s_inf>usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.</s_inf>
-<gloss>after</gloss>
-<gloss>following</gloss>
-<gloss>starting with</gloss>
-</sense>
5. A* 2014-11-09 02:48:49  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
i'm not convinced sense 5 is necessary.  the note on sense 4 doesn't suggest that it is the ~only~ implied meaning when を is used.  ~を~に is a common usage that i don't think needs to be spelled out entry by entry.
4. A* 2014-10-26 04:48:02  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
See proposed 2825841. How's this as an alternative?
  Diff: 
@@ -44,0 +45,8 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>after</gloss>
+<gloss>following</gloss>
+<gloss>starting with</gloss>
+</sense>
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jmdict 1342540 Rejected (id: 1991559)
始め [ichi1,news1,nf17] ； 初め [ichi1]
【 はじめ [ichi1,news1,nf17] 】
1. [n-t,n-adv]
▶ beginning
▶ start
▶ outset
▶ opening
2. [n]
《esp. 初め》
▶ first (in line, etc.)
3. [n]
《esp. 始め》
▶ origin
4. [n] [uk]
《esp. 始め; as 〜を始め, 〜を始めとして, etc.》
▶ such as ...
▶ not to mention ...
5. [adv]
▶ at first
▶ in the beginning
▶ originally
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1307530 始めは 1. at first; in the beginning; originally

History:
8. R 2018-11-25 07:14:31  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Thank you for the amendment suggestion. I'm going to reject it on account of there being no references provided, and I'm not 
immediately seeing anything in daij/gg5 I recognize as having this meaning. I also feel like this is probably already covered by sense 
1 anyway. Feel free to give it another go while providing references/explanation why this isn't adequately covered by sense 1.
7. A* 2018-11-24 13:46:21 
  Comments: 
Used in the same manner as 始めは
  Diff: 
@@ -44,0 +45,7 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adv;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1307530">始めは</xref>
+<gloss>at first</gloss>
+<gloss>in the beginning</gloss>
+<gloss>originally</gloss>
+</sense>
6. A 2014-11-10 06:56:58  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
OK. It's really an application of sense 1.
I've added のをはじめ and んをはじめ to the special text-glossing files.
  Diff: 
@@ -45,8 +44,0 @@
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<s_inf>usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.</s_inf>
-<gloss>after</gloss>
-<gloss>following</gloss>
-<gloss>starting with</gloss>
-</sense>
5. A* 2014-11-09 02:48:49  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
i'm not convinced sense 5 is necessary.  the note on sense 4 doesn't suggest that it is the ~only~ implied meaning when を is used.  ~を~に is a common usage that i don't think needs to be spelled out entry by entry.
4. A* 2014-10-26 04:48:02  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
See proposed 2825841. How's this as an alternative?
  Diff: 
@@ -44,0 +45,8 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>usu. as た-verb+のをはじめ, んをはじめ, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>after</gloss>
+<gloss>following</gloss>
+<gloss>starting with</gloss>
+</sense>
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