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黒船 [news2,nf31]
くろふね [news2,nf31]
1. [n] [hist]
▶ black ships
▶ [expl] Western ships that came to Japan between the 16th and 19th centuries, esp. those of the Perry Expedition in 1853
2. [n]
▶ foreign disruptor (of the Japanese market)
▶ product, person, etc. arriving from the West and disturbing the Japanese market



History:
6. A 2020-10-29 19:42:21  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Looks ok.
5. A* 2020-10-29 13:33:35  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I think it's worth mentioning Perry at least. How about this?
Regarding [id] on sense 2, I don't think it's necessary given that this sense is just a figurative use of sense 1. It's not really what I'd consider an idiom.
  Diff:
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">Western ships which came to Japan between the 16th and 19th centuries</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Western ships that came to Japan between the 16th and 19th centuries, esp. those of the Perry Expedition in 1853</gloss>
4. A* 2020-10-29 07:19:37  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Isn't the fact that they brought about the 
opening of Japan worth mentioning?

Daijs and nikk btw all have a separate sense 
for "esp. the black ships of the Perry 
Expedition"
3. A* 2020-10-29 07:12:34  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I think it was a bit encyclopedic I sugest a rather major pruning.
  Diff:
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">Western ships, often painted with tar, that came to Japan between the 16th and 18th centuries, esp. those of the Perry Expedition (1853) that led to the opening of Japan</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Western ships which came to Japan between the 16th and 19th centuries</gloss>
2. A* 2020-10-28 06:36:18  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
daijs
  Comments:
Too wordy?
  Diff:
@@ -16 +16,3 @@
-<gloss>black ships (i.e. Western ships, often painted with tar, that came to Japan in the 16th century)</gloss>
+<misc>&hist;</misc>
+<gloss>black ships</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Western ships, often painted with tar, that came to Japan between the 16th and 18th centuries, esp. those of the Perry Expedition (1853) that led to the opening of Japan</gloss>
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