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A 2012-09-20 18:55:18 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, meikyo, daij |
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keep explanations brief |
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-<gloss>sliding door (considered as a unit which may be installed in or removed from its frame - in times past, sometimes used for carrying things or people)</gloss>
+<gloss>sliding door (esp. when removed from its frame and used for carrying things or people)</gloss> |
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A* 2012-09-20 01:11:25 Marcus
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-<gloss>abbreviation for といたびらめ (large specimen of flatfish)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2745890">戸板平目</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<gloss>large flounder</gloss> |
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A* 2012-09-20 00:52:37 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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といたびらめ 【戸板平目】ヒラメの特に大きなもの。といた。
http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch/0/0ss/113720800000/
Also, 広辞苑's def #2 of といた is
「といたびらめ」の略
Kodansha:
戸板 [といた] ...(2)戸板のような超大形のヒラメ・カレイのこと。
English Wp article corresponding to ヒラメ ~
"The Olive flounder or Bastard halibut (Paralichthys
olivaceus) is a species of large-tooth flounder native to
the north-western Pacific Ocean. It is often referred to as
the Japanese flatfish or Korea(n) flatfish (광어) when
mentioned in the context of those countries."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_flounder |
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I think it's a bit hard to understand what the present
definition is trying to say. What is a "door to carry
things"?! :-)
In modern usage, I expect it would only very rarely have the
sense noted in dictionaries, such as Kodansha's definition ~
人・物をのせて運ぶために外した, 板張りの雨戸
Examples where it's not used for carrying things ~
1) GI: photo of kids climbing a cupboard door removed from
its frame and inclined against the sash of an open window,
for kids to play on
窓枠を外し、押入れの戸をかけて 戸板のぼり！
2) doors for sale: 秋田杉 戸板 （4枚口）. サイズ 2250 × 850 × 12
3) 今日はM様邸へ雨戸の戸板を取替えに行ってきました。 |
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-<gloss>wooden door (shutter) to carry things</gloss>
+<gloss>sliding door (considered as a unit which may be installed in or removed from its frame - in times past, sometimes used for carrying things or people)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>abbreviation for といたびらめ (large specimen of flatfish)</gloss> |