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呼び捨て [ichi1,news2,nf37] ； 呼びすて [sK] ； 呼捨て [sK]
【 よびすて [ichi1,news2,nf37] 】
1. [n]
▶ addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2668960 呼び捨てにする 1. to address (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan"; to refer to (someone) without a title suffix



History:
10. A 2024-04-19 14:49:07  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
〈呼（び）／よび／ヨビ〉〈捨（て）／すて／ステ〉

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 呼び捨て │ 270,111 │ 97.5% │
│ 呼びすて │   3,284 │  1.2% │ - add, sK
│ 呼捨て　 │   1,605 │  0.6% │ - sK
│ 呼び捨　 │     412 │  0.1% │
│ 呼びステ │     104 │  0.0% │
│ 呼捨　　 │      71 │  0.0% │
│ よび捨て │      48 │  0.0% │
│ よびすて │   1,111 │  0.4% │
│ ヨビステ │     169 │  0.1% │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯
  Diff: 
@@ -10,0 +11,4 @@
+<keb>呼びすて</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -21,2 +25,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2668960">呼び捨てにする</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2668960">呼び捨てにする</xref>
9. A 2022-02-27 11:07:06  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Thank you for the suggestion. I don't think it reads better than the previous version though, so I'm restoring it.
  Diff: 
@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
8. A* 2022-02-27 08:01:30 
  Diff: 
@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)</gloss>
7. A 2019-04-21 07:01:56  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Hmm. I hope this doesn't keep going round.
6. A* 2019-04-21 04:13:35  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Not necessarily honorofic - 君, ちゃん
I think the "such as" was helpful
  Diff: 
@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using an honorific title</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
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jmdict 1266340 Rejected (id: 2180268)
呼び捨て [ichi1,news2,nf37] ； 呼捨て
【 よびすて [ichi1,news2,nf37] 】
1. [n]
▶ addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2668960 呼び捨てにする 1. to address (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan"; to refer to (someone) without a title suffix

History:
11. R 2022-02-28 08:10:53  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
https://www.asahi.com/articles/DA3S15056060.html
4歳の孫が夫婦間での呼び方そのままに、父親の名前を呼び捨てにし、母親のことは「○○ちゃん」と呼んだ。
https://dot.asahi.com/dot/2019122000068.html?page=1
「くん」「ちゃん」をクリアしたら、次はいよいよ「呼び捨て」だ。
https://komachi.yomiuri.co.jp/topics/id/716134/
自分の子はちゃん付け、他人の子は呼び捨てのママの心理は？
https://w.grapps.me/love/286908/
今まで「呼び捨て」で呼んでいた彼氏が、「ちゃん」付けで呼ぶようになったとしたら、
https://www.sankei.com/article/20211016-QCE3KDYC4VKUFBKVVECAG6IZUQ/
小学校３年生の息子がいます。子供同士、呼び捨てで呼び合っているのがとても気になります。
... その友達のお母さんの前でも呼び捨てで呼ぶので、申し訳ない気持ちになったりします。男の子には「くん」を、女の子には「さん」をつけて、呼び合ってほしいと思う私は古い考えでしょうか？　息子も以前は「ちゃん」や「くん」で呼んでいたように思います。やめさせるにはどうすればいいでしょうか。
https://www.sankei.com/article/20161103-X3BDHZIHUNMXHB3NISUNZL5IZM/6/
先生　９月９日付の朝日新聞朝刊に「愛ちゃん　台湾・江選手と結婚」という記事があったが、読んだら「リオデジャネイロ五輪の卓球女子団体で銅メダルに輝いた福原愛（２７）＝ＡＮＡ＝が今月初め…」と、呼び捨てにしているんだ。
  Comments: 
Well, the point you are making is plainly wrong, "-chan" is clearly among the suffixes that "yobisute" indicates you're not using. Daijisen says "「君」「様」「さん」_など_の敬称" (my emphasis). Koj mentions 殿・様・さん・君. That doesn't mean we need to include "殿" or さま here, it's not an exhaustive list.
The wording you're suggesting doesn't make sense to me either, "even '-sama'" seems to imply that "-sama" would be the least polite of the suffixes listed, when it's quite the opposite.
10. A* 2022-02-28 07:00:21  Waving Odd <...address hidden...>
  Refs: 
https://www.weblio.jp/content/呼び捨て

Please refer to 小学館大辞泉. It says "《「よびずて」とも》人の名を「君」「様」「さん」などの敬称をつけずに呼ぶこと。" So addressing someone "-chan" or not is not even what "yobisute" is talking about.  "-chan" is totally out of concern of this context.  Only whether addressing someone by "-san", "-sama", "-kun" OR NOT is the context of "yobisute".  That is my point.
  Comments: 
https://www.weblio.jp/content/呼び捨て

Please refer to 小学館大辞泉. It says "《「よびずて」とも》人の名を「君」「様」「さん」などの敬称をつけずに呼ぶこと。" So addressing someone "-chan" or not is not even what "yobisute" is talking about.  "-chan" is totally out of concern of this context.  Only whether addressing someone by "-san", "-sama", "-kun" OR NOT is the context of "yobisute".  That is my point.
  Diff: 
@@ -22,2 +22 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2668960">呼び捨てにする</xref>
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)</gloss>
9. A 2022-02-27 11:07:06  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Thank you for the suggestion. I don't think it reads better than the previous version though, so I'm restoring it.
  Diff: 
@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
8. A* 2022-02-27 08:01:30 
  Diff: 
@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-chan" (considered impolite)</gloss>
+<gloss>addressing (someone) without using a suffix such as "-san" or "-kun" or even "-sama" (considered impolite)</gloss>
7. A 2019-04-21 07:01:56  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments: 
Hmm. I hope this doesn't keep going round.
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