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A 2024-11-20 03:46:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2024-11-19 22:44:35 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬─────────────╮
│ を見る │ 224,221,018 │
│ を観る │ 1,285,445 │
╰─ーーー─┴─────────────╯ |
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I think 観る deserves a priority tag as well. |
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@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -24,0 +26 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> |
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A 2023-01-02 02:07:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-01-01 22:23:23 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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覧る seems to apply especially to our sense 2, but it is very rare.
meikyo: 「覧」はひととおり目を通す意で「新聞［回状］を覧る」などと使うが、今は一般に「見」でまかなう。
shinmeikai also has it.
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
覧る 958
覧て 864 |
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@@ -14,0 +15,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>覧る</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2019-11-10 06:43:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-11-09 23:23:24 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, prog, daij |
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Sense 4 seemed quite pointless (covered by sense 1) so I've replaced with a new sense (so as not to mess up the sentences). |
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@@ -34 +34 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1365450">診る</xref>
+<gloss>to examine</gloss>
@@ -36 +35,0 @@
-<gloss>to look on</gloss>
@@ -38 +37 @@
-<gloss>to examine</gloss>
+<gloss>to check</gloss>
@@ -45 +43,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -46,0 +45,2 @@
+<gloss>to attend to</gloss>
+<gloss>to take care of</gloss>
@@ -48 +47,0 @@
-<gloss>to take care of</gloss>
@@ -53,2 +52,2 @@
-<s_inf>usu. 観る</s_inf>
-<gloss>to view (e.g. flowers, movie)</gloss>
+<gloss>to experience</gloss>
+<gloss>to meet with (misfortune, success, etc.)</gloss>
@@ -69 +68 @@
-<s_inf>after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
+<s_inf>as 〜てみると, 〜てみたら, 〜てみれば, etc.</s_inf> |
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A 2019-11-09 23:02:23 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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@@ -60,6 +60,4 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
-<gloss>to try</gloss>
-<gloss>to try out</gloss>
-<gloss>to have a go at</gloss>
-<gloss>to give something a try</gloss>
-<gloss>to test</gloss>
+<s_inf>after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>to try ...</gloss>
+<gloss>to have a go at ...</gloss>
+<gloss>to give ... a try</gloss>
@@ -71,3 +69,3 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
-<gloss>to see that...</gloss>
-<gloss>to find that...</gloss>
+<s_inf>after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>to see (that) ...</gloss>
+<gloss>to find (that) ...</gloss> |
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A* 2019-11-09 15:00:27
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@@ -62,0 +63,2 @@
+<gloss>to have a go at</gloss>
+<gloss>to give something a try</gloss> |
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A 2019-03-25 05:18:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I don't like "conative" much, and in any case I suspect it's forming a conative structure rather than following a conative verb. |
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@@ -60 +60 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
@@ -69 +69 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. after the -te form of a verb</s_inf> |
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A* 2019-03-24 01:36:59 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I don't think "conative"/"aconative" is very helpful (as I've noted previously). |
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@@ -60 +60 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after a conative verb as 〜てみる</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. after after the -te form of a verb</s_inf>
@@ -69 +69 @@
-<s_inf>usu. after an aconative verb as 〜てみると, 〜てみれば, 〜てみたら, etc.</s_inf>
+<s_inf>usu. after after the -te form of a verb</s_inf> |
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A 2015-10-21 23:17:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-10-21 17:47:34 luce
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@@ -56,0 +57 @@
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
@@ -58 +58,0 @@
-<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -62,0 +63 @@
+<gloss>to test</gloss>
@@ -64,0 +66 @@
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
@@ -66 +67,0 @@
-<pos>&vt;</pos> |
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A 2013-02-10 12:09:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
Search me. I was impressed by the word. |
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A* 2013-02-10 09:16:19 Marcus Richert
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No idea, must have happened automatically. might there be a
better way of saying "aconative verb"? |
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A 2013-02-10 06:58:10 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2013-02-09 21:01:30 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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why rm all the usage tags? |
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@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>nf14</ke_pri>
@@ -15,0 +18,3 @@
+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>nf14</re_pri> |
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A* 2013-02-09 03:59:25 Marcus Richert
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the "aconative verb" in the note on meaning 6 is a little bit
confusing - the term only gets 8 hits on bing, might there be
a better way of phrasing it? |
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@@ -6,3 +6,0 @@
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf14</ke_pri>
@@ -18,3 +15,0 @@
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf14</re_pri> |
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A 2012-05-06 11:07:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-05-06 08:03:20
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"try out" seems to be closer to the meaning than pure "try" |
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@@ -62,0 +62,1 @@
+<gloss>to try out</gloss> |
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A 2010-10-11 10:14:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2010-10-08 07:52:46 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, meikyo |
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merging in recent submission suggested as a new entry. i'm not sure the glosses (or my use of the word 'conative') are entirely right |
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-<gloss>(usu. after the -te form of a verb) to try</gloss>
+<s_inf>usu. after a conative verb as 〜てみる</s_inf>
+<gloss>to try</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>usu. after an aconative verb as 〜てみると, 〜てみれば, 〜てみたら, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>to see that...</gloss>
+<gloss>to find that...</gloss> |