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A 2024-01-12 23:40:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think some people associate it with other senses too. I'd keep it as [sK]. |
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A* 2024-01-07 03:30:31 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Since 視える has a cross reference to this entry, I'd say the hidden form isn't needed |
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A 2024-01-07 03:07:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2024-01-07 01:15:16 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I'll set it up. |
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A* 2024-01-07 00:57:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think that's the best approach; keeping it here as [sK]. Reverso glosses it as "visualization" in several passages. |
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A* 2024-01-07 00:42:48 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I'm not opposed to a separate 視える entry.
For glosses, how's this?: "to be seen (esp. of something immaterial, spiritual, supernatural, etc.); to be visible" |
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A* 2024-01-06 19:13:00 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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見える 18899932 99.9%
視える 19470 0.1%
https://ja.hinative.com/questions/20172944
視える⇒まっすぐ目を向けて見る。注意してよく見る。と言う意味です。
例文：
その目に恋が視えるか?
AIにより、働き方の課題を視える化する
霊視（れいし）⇒普通の人には見えない幽霊や不思議な存在が見えること。
この言葉があるためか、霊視できるときに
「視える」という字を使うようです。 |
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For reasons below, I'd vote for a separate entry, even if it's imperfect. (usage might be "all over the place", but if it often accompanies a strong "extra sensory perception" nuance, we could start with that, and have a see=[見える]).
The currently-extremely-popular anime Frieren used this in the subtitles, with furigana. So, people will be looking this up. A brash hero challenges a powerful, magical antagonist, gets pinned down, and then critiqued on his performance in a condescending way, ending with a comment on the youthful foolishness of attacking "alone"(単身). But he wasn't alone:
単身？そうか。やっぱりお前たちには視（み）えていないんだな。
Then his comrade appears...
No literal sight was involved. Probably something like "magic-based/superhuman perception".
I read the previous discussion, but I think this term is common enough that it's not great that I can search for 視える and not actually *see* it in the results.
In raw terms, 20,000 ngrams is nothing to sneeze at, even if it is dwarfed by 見える. I think we would be helping people if we could actually provide some guidance as to the nuance of this term.
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Note: the kanji is still visible on our sister entry:
見る 285231235 100.0%
視る 82016 0.0% |
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A 2023-01-05 04:01:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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A* 2023-01-05 02:08:14 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, prog |
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Used in 150+ tweets a day. Although quite a lot of them are related to clairvoyance/spirituality/immaterial things, usage is all over the place.
sK is probably best. |
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+<gloss>to be visible</gloss> |
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A* 2023-01-02 20:33:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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No problem with it being here, but if that nuance is correct it probably should be in its own entry too. |
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+<keb>視える</keb>
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A* 2023-01-01 22:51:36 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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This chiebukoro post claims that 視える refers to extrasensory perception / clairvoyance.
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q10143200975
This HiNative post agrees and adds that it can also be used with other immaterial concepts such as love.
https://ja.hinative.com/questions/20172944
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬────────────┬───────╮
│ 見える │ 18,899,932 │ 95.0% │
│ 視える │ 19,470 │ 0.1% │
│ 診える │ 381 │ 0.0% │
│ 看える │ 56 │ 0.0% │
│ 覧える │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ みえる │ 979,011 │ 4.9% │
╰─ーーー─┴────────────┴───────╯ |
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視える seems to be fairly common now, but I'm not sure if it warrants a new entry. Could be added here as [iK] or [sK]. |