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A 2021-12-15 00:55:40 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Bulk convert ling to gramm
-*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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-<field>&ling;</field>
+<field>&gramm;</field> |
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A 2020-09-08 23:24:15 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think both work, but "or" is probably clearer. |
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A* 2020-09-08 22:23:37 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think it should be "or", not "and". |
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-<gloss>adjectival noun (Japanese)</gloss>
+<gloss>adjectival noun (in Japanese)</gloss>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">na-, taru-, nari- and tari-adjective</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">na-, taru-, nari- or tari-adjective</gloss> |
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A 2018-05-17 07:02:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I like that. |
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-<gloss g_type="expl">na-adjectives, taru-adjectives, nari-adjectives and tari-adjectives</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">na-, taru-, nari- and tari-adjective</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-17 04:52:30 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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could also be abbreviated "na-, taru-, nari- and tari-adjectives" |
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A* 2018-05-17 01:35:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think it should be the full list. Could possibly be abbreviated to "na(taru,nari,tari)-adjectives". |
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-<gloss g_type="expl">na-adjectives, taru-adjectives and nari-adjectives</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">na-adjectives, taru-adjectives, nari-adjectives and tari-adjectives</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-16 16:59:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Of course, 堂々 is still a 形容動詞 because it's a tari-adjective, and "taru-adjective" is just a name to describe how tari-adjectives conjugate in modern Japanese.
Taru-adjectives and tari-adjectives are the same thing, just like na-adjectives and nari-adjectives.
Therefore, I think the gloss needs to be either "na-adjectives and taru-adjectives", or "na-adjectives, taru-adjectives, nari-adjectives and tari-adjectives". |
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A* 2018-05-16 16:22:21 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daijs: "活用のある自立語で、文中において単独で述語になることができ、言い切りの形が、口語では「だ」、文語では「なり」「たり」で終わるもの。" |
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According to the definition, taru-adjectives can't be considered 形容動詞 because they don't function as a predicate and they have no conclusive form (you can't say 堂々だ), which would make na-adjectives the only 形容動詞 in modern Japanese.
Nari-adjectives and tari-adjectives are 形容動詞 but they only appear in classical Japanese. |
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A* 2018-05-16 05:17:48 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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see Marcus comment |
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-<gloss>na-adjective, taru-adjective, etc.</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">na-adjectives, taru-adjectives and nari-adjectives</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-16 03:57:34 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I wouldn't be opposed to an expl reading something like "na-adjectives, taru-adjectives, and nari-adjectives" |
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-<gloss>na-adjective, taru- adjective, etc.</gloss>
+<gloss>na-adjective, taru-adjective, etc.</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-16 00:28:01 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Is "na-adjective" really a common translation
of 形容動詞 or is it a separate English/JSL
construct that actually only refers to the
subset of 形容動詞 that are used with な? I
think it's the second as such I don'tthink
"na-adjective" belongs here. |
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-<gloss>na-adjective, taru-adjective, etc.</gloss>
+<gloss>na-adjective, taru- adjective, etc.</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-15 22:15:51 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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As long as it's not the first gloss, I see no problem with it. "Na-adjective" is a very common translation for this part of speech so it's definitely worth having.
I think the "taru-adjective, etc." part is potentially confusing because it's not clear what's included in "etc.". I'd just stick with "na-adjective". |
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A* 2018-05-15 13:54:27 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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see Marcus' comment |
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+<gloss>na-adjective, taru-adjective, etc.</gloss> |
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A* 2018-05-15 12:33:43 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I think "na-adjective" is misleading. daijs says"... 言い切りの形が、口語では「だ」、文語では「なり」「たり」で終わるもの。「静かだ」「静かなり」
「堂々たり」の類。" 堂々 isn't a na-adjective. |
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-<gloss>na-adjective</gloss> |
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A 2018-05-05 17:02:35 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-05-05 12:48:48 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daij, koj |
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I think it should be made clear that this term is only used in the context of Japanese grammar. |
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-<gloss>na-adjective (adj-na)</gloss>
+<gloss>adjectival noun (Japanese)</gloss>
+<gloss>na-adjective</gloss>
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-<gloss>adjectival noun</gloss> |