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A 2021-10-16 07:03:11 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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+<misc>&hist;</misc> |
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A 2018-10-23 22:24:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-10-23 12:33:34
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-<gloss>Mandarin (standard variety of Chinese spoken by official classes during the Qing dynasty)</gloss>
+<gloss>Qing Mandarin (standard variety of Chinese spoken by official classes during the Qing dynasty)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-10-23 10:45:53 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese |
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As much as I like the word, we should probably go with something that most people will understand.
This is maybe a better description. |
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-<gloss>Mandarin (group of related Chinese topolects)</gloss>
+<gloss>Mandarin (branch of Chinese spoken in northern and southwestern China)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-10-22 21:55:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/topolect |
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I think this is more accurate (I defer to my old friend Victor Mair on the use of "topolect".)
My earlier version was straight from GG5. |
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-<gloss>Mandarin (standard variety of Chinese spoken by official classes of the Empire)</gloss>
+<gloss>Mandarin (standard variety of Chinese spoken by official classes during the Qing dynasty)</gloss>
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-<gloss>Mandarin (group of related Chinese dialects)</gloss>
+<gloss>Mandarin (group of related Chinese topolects)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-10-22 18:18:40 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daijr: "中国，清代の公用・標準語。"
daijs: "かつて中国の官界・上流社会で用いられた標準的言語。"
koj: "中国における共通語の旧称。"
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/官話
jwiki: "官話は上記のように本来は官僚の共通語の意味であるが、現在は方言名・言語名として使われることがある。" |
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All the kokugos describe this as an old term for standard Chinese but Wikipedia has a modern definition as well. I think we should have 2 senses.
I don't think it ever refers to modern standard Chinese (which is typically translated as 普通話 or 標準中国語). |
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-<gloss>Mandarin (Chinese)</gloss>
-<gloss>standard modern Chinese</gloss>
+<gloss>Mandarin (standard variety of Chinese spoken by official classes of the Empire)</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>Mandarin (group of related Chinese dialects)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-10-22 04:09:12 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, etc. |
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-<gloss>Mandarin (language)</gloss>
+<gloss>Mandarin (Chinese)</gloss>
+<gloss>standard modern Chinese</gloss> |