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A 2021-11-18 00:32:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Meikyo vt and vi additions to n,vs entries
-*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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A 2021-06-22 06:06:19 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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OK. I guess I just feel that "triumphant return" is a poor translation of the text where I encountered it. "triumphant", "in triumph"
are very positive words, but I got the impression "凱旋" was more of a statement of fact in that passage, i.e.
〇 "It was after the war, when our troops came back."
× "It was after the war, at the time of our troops triumphant return." |
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A 2021-06-22 02:53:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'm with Robin here. On reflection I think it's really only one sense. If the heavy-splitting kokugos don't split it, we're straining it a bit. |
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-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
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-<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
-<gloss>returning home after winning a war</gloss> |
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A* 2021-06-22 00:57:37 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I still feel it's unnecessary as "triumphant return" works for both meanings. Sense 2 just looks like sense 1 in more words. (And I don't think it's necessary to indicate that "triumphant return" doesn't specifically refer to war.) |
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A* 2021-06-21 00:33:54 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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戦争に勝って帰ってくること。成功を収めて帰ってくること。
daijs might not split, but they're certainly describing two different things. the glosses could maybe be changed/moved around but I
think having 2 senses here is sensible. |
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A* 2021-06-20 23:32:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I don't think a second sense is needed. "Triumphant" means "having won a battle or contest". |
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A 2021-06-19 07:54:54 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-06-19 04:48:14 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daijs 戦争に勝って帰ってくること。成功を収めて帰ってくること。
saw this with the original meaning in an early Showa text: "ソレから盃の売れたのは日清戦争の凱旋の時でした。"
I think it makes sense to split into 2 senses, one with the general meaning, one with the literal. |
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+<gloss>returning in triumph</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf>
+<gloss>returning home after winning a war</gloss> |