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[n]
▶ yen (Japanese monetary unit) |
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[n]
▶ circle |
19. | A 2020-09-18 02:45:20 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | No, furigana.info's frequency info is mainly based on furigana usage in 青空文庫 novels/short stories. |
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18. | A 2020-09-18 02:11:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I think that site just uses dictionary information, so in terms of usage it's irrelevant. |
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17. | A* 2020-09-17 02:19:09 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | https://furigana.info/w/円 “円”のいろいろな読み方と例文 まる 62.8% まろ 10.1% ... えん 4.5% (this includes 円い, 円やか, etc. though) |
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16. | A* 2020-09-17 01:54:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Reopen. |
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15. | A 2020-09-17 01:54:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | えんを描く < 20 まるを描く 54 |
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Comments: | I'm happy with this order, but the note has to go - that sense is alive and well. I wonder how many people on seeing 円 solo in the context of a circle would read it as えん rather than まる? I'll close this, and reopen for further discussion, if needed. |
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Diff: | @@ -26 +25,0 @@ -<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf> |
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1. |
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▶ yen (Japanese monetary unit) |
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《orig. meaning》 ▶ circle |
13. | R 2020-09-17 01:23:28 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Fork. |
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12. | A* 2020-09-17 01:13:17 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | That's never been a hard-and-fast rule, though. We'll often put less common senses first, e.g. when there's a literal and figurative meaning. The major JEs also tend to put more common senses first but they all lead with "circle" in this case. |
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11. | A* 2020-09-17 00:35:02 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | But... the dictionary style is to put the most common meaning first. Esp. when we're talking spoken language, "yen" must be more than 2 orders of magnitude more common as a meaning for 円 than "circle" is. I don't think we should make ad-hoc exceptions on the fly either, if "circle" should come first, then we should implement a concise and clear rule/test for when a less common meaning should supersede the most common one. |
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10. | A* 2020-09-17 00:16:07 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think it matters that "yen" is more common. 円/circle is an extremely common and basic word. Looks odd having it after the currency sense. |
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9. | A* 2020-09-16 22:33:37 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | "yen" is the more common meaning by far, so I disagree. (I don't think the note is needed either.) |
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