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A 2021-08-15 03:21:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK, thanks. I've added it there. |
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-<s_inf>also written 緬甸</s_inf> |
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A* 2021-08-13 23:08:04 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think it would be OK. We've done a similar thing with ブラシ/刷子, ランプ/洋灯 and ポンプ/喞筒. "gikun" marks a kanji reading so a uk tag isn't needed, and 緬甸 is obsolete whether it's read めんでん or ビルマ so "obs" is still fine. |
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A 2021-08-13 00:19:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'd leave it alone. I wouldn't want ビルマ in two entries, and if it went off to the 緬甸 entry as a "gikun" reading it would have to be "uk", and the "obs" would have to come off, etc. et. |
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A* 2021-08-12 15:58:02 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Should we drop the note and instead add "ビルマ" to the 緬甸/めんでん entry as a gikun reading? |
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A 2018-03-12 22:20:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-03-12 12:18:40 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think 緬甸 should point here, not the other way round. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="2826694">緬甸・めんでん</xref> |
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A 2015-03-09 22:25:41 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-02-04 10:26:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Reopen. |
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A 2015-02-04 10:26:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'm approving and reopening to pin xrefs. |
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-<s_inf>alos written 緬甸</s_inf>
+<s_inf>also written 緬甸</s_inf> |
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A* 2015-02-04 10:23:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I agree about two entries:
- Koj associates 緬甸 with ビルマ (ビルマ【Burma・緬甸】) GJD does the same.
- Koj has a separate 緬甸/めんでん entry: "ビルマの漢名。"
- Daijs has "ビルマ【Burma】" and adds "[補説]「緬甸」とも書く。"
- Daijr in the ビルマ entry says "「緬甸」とも当てた".
- Daijr has a 緬甸/めんでん entry: "明代以後、中国でビルマをいった語。"
- none of the JEs touch 緬甸.
I propose a ビルマ with a note saying "also written 緬甸" and a 緬甸/めんでん entry with a tag sourcing from from Chinese. |
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-<k_ele>
-<keb>緬甸</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>めんでん</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -14,0 +9 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2826694">緬甸・めんでん</xref>
@@ -16,3 +11 @@
-<misc>&obs;</misc>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<s_inf>めんでん is ateji</s_inf>
+<s_inf>alos written 緬甸</s_inf> |
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A* 2015-02-02 09:37:04 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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めんでん is not ateji... 緬甸 is ateji for めんでん. considering the separate languages of origin, these should perhaps not be merged |
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A* 2015-01-28 23:08:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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See how this looks. ビルマ is not an ateji reading, so I made it a note instead. |
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-<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>めんでん</reb>
+</r_ele>
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+<s_inf>めんでん is ateji</s_inf> |
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A* 2015-01-23 04:32:15 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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can't we put めんでん back in then? |
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A* 2015-01-23 02:33:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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http://daijirin.dual-d.net/extra/gairaigo.html |
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Since this appears in the list in that Daijirin page along with 亜米利加, 伊太利, etc., the kanji should perhaps be reinstated. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>緬甸</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11 +15 @@
-<s_inf>also written as 緬甸</s_inf>
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2014-12-13 22:35:18 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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緬甸[めんでん has been in enamdict for ages. |
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A* 2014-12-13 21:40:17 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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suggest moving 緬甸[めんでん] to enamdict. also, we've lost the war on calling it 'burma' over 'myanmar' |
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-<k_ele>
-<keb>緬甸</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>めんでん</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -12 +5,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -16 +9,3 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<xref type="see" seq="1131610">ミャンマー</xref>
+<misc>&obs;</misc>
+<s_inf>also written as 緬甸</s_inf> |
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A* 2014-12-13 00:48:11 Marcus Richert
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though it's always ミャンマー on TV, I'm sure ビルマ is more
common than めんでん |
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+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2014-12-12 22:20:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@
+<reb>めんでん</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -10,3 +12,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>めんでん</reb> |
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A* 2014-12-12 02:35:54 Marcus Richert
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-<reb>びるま</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele> |