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1. |
[n]
Source lang:
por "pão"
《originally written 麺麭 or 麪包》 ▶ bread ▶ (sweet) pastry
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2. |
[n]
▶ staff of life ▶ one's bread |
9. | A 2021-09-28 07:39:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | croissants aren't necessarily sweet! I think it looks good without an example. |
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Diff: | @@ -14 +14 @@ -<gloss>(sweet) pastry (e.g. croissant)</gloss> +<gloss>(sweet) pastry</gloss> |
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8. | A 2021-09-28 04:05:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
7. | A* 2021-09-27 13:23:44 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Fair point. We may want to specify that it refers to sweet baked goods (as opposed to the dough or savoury pastries like Cornish pasties). |
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Diff: | @@ -14 +14 @@ -<gloss>pastry</gloss> +<gloss>(sweet) pastry (e.g. croissant)</gloss> |
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6. | A* 2021-09-27 04:13:53 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I do think we should include pastry in the first sense, or even as a separate sense. There's a discernible difference in the search results on google images for 甘いパン vs "sweet bread". Japanese Wikipedia describes a "Danish" like this: "デニッシュとは、パンの一種。" English wikipedia says "A Danish pastry, sometimes shortened to just Danish, is a multilayered, laminated sweet pastry in the viennoiserie tradition." I'm having trouble finding any English-language references to Danish pastry as "bread." On Quora (a site I definitely don't hold in high repute, but still), the consensus seems to be that a croissant is not a bread but a pastry. https://www.quora.com/Is-croissant-a-type-of-bread enwiki, again, says that "Pastry is differentiated from bread by having a higher fat content" |
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Diff: | @@ -13,0 +14 @@ +<gloss>pastry</gloss> |
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5. | A* 2021-09-27 00:27:19 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | gg5, prog, daij |
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Comments: | Splitting on source language. I don't think the "pastry" glosses are needed. Should we drop the sense 1 note and instead add パン as a gikun reading to the 麺麭 entry? |
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Diff: | @@ -14,2 +13,0 @@ -<gloss>pastries (e.g. croissants)</gloss> -<gloss>pastry-based products</gloss> @@ -19,9 +17,2 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1111160">フライパン</xref> -<lsource xml:lang="eng">pan</lsource> -<gloss>pan</gloss> -<gloss>frying pan</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<pos>&vs;</pos> -<gloss>panning (in a film)</gloss> +<gloss>staff of life</gloss> +<gloss>one's bread</gloss> |
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