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A 2024-05-09 03:37:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2024-05-09 00:01:06 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Better? |
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+<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf>
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-<stagr>コップ</stagr>
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+<s_inf>also written as コツフ</s_inf> |
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A 2022-01-15 00:38:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. Keep it; it's only sense 2. |
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A* 2022-01-15 00:30:18 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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It is quite obscure online but it's more frequently occuring in playing card literature than google books would have you believe. I see it on the regular, no exaggeration. It sounds sifferent from コップ but ortographically it fits in, I think. Splitting out would be messy. |
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A* 2022-01-14 21:41:15 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I'm proposing we don't include コツフ. |
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A 2022-01-14 20:44:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-01-14 16:35:36 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think that form is too obscure to include. It looks out of place alongside コップ, and it doesn't sound anything like the source word. |
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A* 2022-01-14 10:45:50 Tsuchida
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Dutch nouns, unlike German, do not start with a capital letter. |
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-<lsource xml:lang="dut">Kop</lsource>
+<lsource xml:lang="dut">kop</lsource> |
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A* 2022-01-14 03:18:43 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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https://sudare10.gokenin.com/room/mein/mein-top.html
一組の「カルタ」は４種の紋標（スーツ）と１２の位（ランク）から成り、計４８枚です。紋標は、棍棒（パウ又はハウ）、剣（イス）、貨幣（オウル）、聖杯（コップ又はコツフ）の４種。
https://japanplayingcardmuseum.com/1-1-1-3-analyzing-inkstonebox-printingblock/
天正カルタの四紋標
（右よりハウ、イス、 コツフ、ヲゝル）
(quoting from the mid-Edo 歓遊桑話)
https://japanplayingcardmuseum.com/3-1-4-3-eawasecarta-fourcardstype-suitmarks/
また、「二」や「三」が紋標だとするなら、「ハウ」「イス」「コツフ」「オウル」の違いは何と呼ぶのか。
in the 1959 book 古典日本文学全集: 近松門左衞門集 on google books also:
...それの少し簡略になって、オウル、コツフ、イス、ハウの四種十二枚、合わせて四十八枚を弄ぶようになって... |
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a little obscure. [rk] candidate perhaps. |
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>コツフ</reb>
+</r_ele>
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+<stagr>コップ</stagr> |
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A 2021-12-01 01:52:52 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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洋杯 462
洋盃 277
骨杯 No matches
コップ 1441879 |
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+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +10 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +14,2 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2021-03-27 07:15:27 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-03-27 01:45:05 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cups_(suit)
https://l-pollett.tripod.com/cards9.htm
https://www.kobecitymuseum.jp/collection/detail?heritage=365121
"現在のトランプに近くパオ（棍棒）、コップ（聖杯）、オウル（貨幣）、エスパーダ（剣）という4種の紋標に ..."
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/うんすんカルタ
スートはパオ・ハウまたは花（棍棒）、イスまたは剣（刀剣）、コツまたはコップ（聖杯）、オウル・オウロ[2]またはオリ（金貨）、グルまたはクル[2]（巴
紋）
(sourced to 山口格太郎 著『日本のかるた』保育社、1973年)
http://www.hitoyoshi-hikari.com/history/unsun/unsun.html
パオ（こん棒）、イス（剣）、コツ（聖杯）、オウル（貨幣）、グル（巴紋）の５種類のカードが１５枚ずつの計７５枚
https://books.google.co.jp/books?
id=YGgTAQAAMAAJ&q=%E3%83%91%E3%82%AA+%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9+%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8B%E3%81%9F&dq=%E3%83%91%E3%82%AA+%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9+%E3%81%
8B%E3%82%8B%E3%81%9F |
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+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>cups (playing card suit)</gloss> |
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A 2020-09-04 10:46:42 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-09-04 04:49:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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洋杯 462 - Daijir
洋盃 277 - Koj, Unidic
骨杯 < 20 - Koj |
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I think we need to make the old kanji forms searchable, as we do in other entries. Splitting off the "cop" sense. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>洋杯</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>洋盃</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>骨杯</keb>
+</k_ele>
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-<s_inf>hist. also written as 洋盃, 骨杯</s_inf>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
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-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<misc>&sl;</misc>
-<gloss>cop (police officer)</gloss>
-</sense> |
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A* 2020-09-03 10:19:25
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-<s_inf>also written 洋盃 and 骨杯</s_inf>
+<s_inf>hist. also written as 洋盃, 骨杯</s_inf> |
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A 2017-06-22 19:47:35 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>glass (i.e. drinking vessel)</gloss>
+<gloss>glass (drinking vessel)</gloss> |
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A 2016-08-30 23:35:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'll let that go in, but I'll note that all the 国語s I checked only have the Dutch source. |
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-<lsource xml:lang="por">Copo</lsource>
+<lsource xml:lang="por">copo</lsource> |
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A* 2016-08-30 11:21:25 <...address hidden...>
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+<lsource xml:lang="por">Copo</lsource> |