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A 2020-01-14 02:52:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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On reflection I don't think this one is likely to be "id". I'll close it. |
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A* 2019-12-27 04:24:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A 2019-12-27 04:24:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'd like to move the "id" discussion to the editors' list. I'll close this now and reopen to
be visible for possible additions. |
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A* 2019-12-27 01:00:12 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I thought it was our policy to only use id on expressions (see 狼煙, 月並み, 電池切れ).
The majority of those 218 entries are expressions, but there are a lot on that list (e.g. 波, 空気 難民) that I don't think are idioms by any definition.
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I agree there probably is an argument for dropping the id tag. |
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A* 2019-12-26 23:00:01 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i agree that this should not be marked as an idiom and we have had some short back and forths and compound nouns being idioms in the comments of various entries, but i agree that this should be raised on the mailing list
we should also consider what value the [id] label actually has. since people can disagree on what an "idiom" is, it's not clear why we even need this tag. it is usually pretty clear when a gloss does not match the literal meaning of the individual terms. i'm not sure why we need to tell people "this is an idiom" or not. to my knowledge, i've never seen another kokugo, english dictionary or J-E that bothers with an idiom tag |
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A* 2019-12-26 22:10:35 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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We have 218 entries with n+id tags, many
of them compound nouns like this one. If
we want to discuss changes to a large
amount of entries, the mailing list is
porbably the place for it. |
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A* 2019-12-26 21:46:29 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I wouldn't consider "Christmas cake" a "group of words". It's a regular noun, and I don't believe nouns (by themselves) can be idioms. "Fruit cake" (meaning "eccentric person"), for example, isn't an idiom, but "nutty as a fruitcake" is. |
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A* 2019-12-26 19:37:07 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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idiom
/ˈɪdɪəm/
noun
1.
a group of words established by usage as
having a meaning not deducible from those
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How come? |
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A* 2019-12-26 19:10:21 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I wouldn't describe this as an idiom. |
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@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<misc>&id;</misc>
@@ -17,0 +17 @@
+<misc>&dated;</misc> |
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A 2019-05-02 10:39:06 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Showa slang, so kind of dated, but well-known. |
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-<misc>&col;</misc>
-<gloss>woman who has turned 25 and is not married yet</gloss>
+<misc>&id;</misc>
+<misc>&joc;</misc>
+<gloss>unmarried woman above the age of 25</gloss> |
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A* 2019-05-02 10:22:16
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http://zokugo-dict.com/08ku/christmas-cake.htm |
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+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<gloss>woman who has turned 25 and is not married yet</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A 2013-05-11 07:25:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Added additional dotted reading(s) via batch update.Added additional dotted reading(s) via batch update.
-*- via bulkupd.py -*- |
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+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>クリスマス・ケーキ</reb> |