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A 2023-11-08 02:59:33 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -26,0 +28 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -35,0 +38 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2023-01-17 07:41:36 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -7 +6,0 @@
-<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> |
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A 2023-01-17 07:07:36 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-01-17 01:46:14 Marcus Richert
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とんでもない 2270983 98.8%
とんでも無い 19628 0.9% not in any dictionary
飛んでもない 7547 0.3%
飛んでも無い 691 0.0% |
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@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -10 +11 @@
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18 +18,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -28 +27,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -38 +36,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2023-01-16 05:58:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. I'm putting it back the way it was. |
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@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>unthinkable</gloss>
@@ -20,8 +20,0 @@
-<gloss>unforeseen</gloss>
-<gloss>unpredicted</gloss>
-<gloss>surprising</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>unthinkable</gloss>
@@ -31,5 +23,0 @@
-<gloss>unreasonable</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -37,8 +24,0 @@
-<gloss>awful</gloss>
-<gloss>(very) bad</gloss>
-<gloss>severe</gloss>
-<gloss>intense</gloss>
-<gloss>great</gloss>
-<gloss>extreme</gloss>
-<gloss>tremendous</gloss>
-<gloss>enormous</gloss> |
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A* 2023-01-12 05:20:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I don't think this proposed edit helps much. Increasing the glosses to 29 and the senses to 5 seems like overkill, and the references don't really support the changes. Moreover the senses no longer match the examples or cross-references. Unless a good case is made I'll revert it to the current version. |
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A* 2023-01-12 03:13:26 Kyle Ong <...address hidden...>
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https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/とんでもない/#jn-162083
スーパー大辞林
https://ejje.weblio.jp/content/とんでもない
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/とんでもない |
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added definition |
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@@ -18,0 +19,8 @@
+<gloss>unexpected</gloss>
+<gloss>unforeseen</gloss>
+<gloss>unpredicted</gloss>
+<gloss>surprising</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -20 +27,0 @@
-<gloss>unexpected</gloss>
@@ -23,0 +31,5 @@
+<gloss>unreasonable</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -24,0 +37,8 @@
+<gloss>awful</gloss>
+<gloss>(very) bad</gloss>
+<gloss>severe</gloss>
+<gloss>intense</gloss>
+<gloss>great</gloss>
+<gloss>extreme</gloss>
+<gloss>tremendous</gloss>
+<gloss>enormous</gloss> |
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A 2021-09-30 04:05:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-09-30 03:22:52 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daijs 1. unexpected 2) outrageous, 3 not at all (相手の言葉を強く否定していう)
daijr 1. completely unexpected, unreasonable 2. outrageous 3. not at all (相手の言うことを強く否定する語)
koj 1. unthinkable, unexpected, 2. not at all
Interestingly they don't have our sense 3 which is used in polite conversation. of course it's a subset of what's in
their "相手の言うことを強く否定する語" but it definitely does need to be spelled out for learners. |
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I think "bullshit" is too strong/rude. |
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@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>unexpected</gloss>
@@ -26 +27 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>∫</pos>
@@ -29 +29,0 @@
-<gloss>not at all!</gloss>
@@ -35 +34,0 @@
-<gloss>bullshit</gloss>
@@ -38 +37 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>∫</pos>
@@ -39,0 +39,2 @@
+<gloss>(it was) no bother at all</gloss>
+<gloss>not at all</gloss>
@@ -41 +41,0 @@
-<gloss>you're welcome</gloss> |
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A 2019-12-31 21:46:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Looks better. |
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A* 2019-12-31 11:31:31 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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daijr (sense 1); "全く思いがけない。常識では考えられない。意外だ。とほうもない。"
gg5 |
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I think it's a somewhat colloquial use of sense 1. Similar to "ridiculously delicious"/"absurdly delicious".
I don't think we need [col] on sense 2. |
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@@ -20 +20 @@
-<gloss>unexpected</gloss>
+<gloss>absurd</gloss>
@@ -22 +22 @@
-<gloss>offensive</gloss>
+<gloss>preposterous</gloss>
@@ -27 +26,0 @@
-<misc>&col;</misc> |
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A* 2019-12-31 07:57:24 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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The sentence とんでもなく美味しいです was raised on the remnant SLJ mailing list. It's not
uncommon, and of course means something like "extremely delicious". I'm not sure the current
とんでもない entry handles it. Should anything be added or changed? |
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A 2016-11-05 00:14:02 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-11-04 23:38:14 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> |
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A 2013-02-20 04:06:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2013-02-20 03:08:38 winnie <...address hidden...>
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+<gloss>terrible</gloss> |
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A 2012-07-08 21:21:46 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-07-08 20:40:38 Scott
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Shouldn't this be adj-i? I can find とんでもなく、とんでもなかった |
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@@ -16,1 +16,1 @@
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-i;</pos> |
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A 2012-01-14 00:10:28 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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Yes. As in English:
A: "Thank you."
B: "Don't be ridiculous." (= "You're welcome.") |
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A* 2012-01-13 23:56:33
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I love that this expression can mean both "you're welcome" and "bullshit"! Is that really accurate? |
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A 2010-10-14 10:20:50 Jean-Luc Leger <...address hidden...>
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moving up とんでも無い as it is more common |
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@@ -5,0 +5,3 @@
+<keb>とんでも無い</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -7,3 +10,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とんでも無い</keb> |
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A* 2010-10-14 04:59:42 Scott
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@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とんでも無い</keb> |
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A 2010-08-29 00:37:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Tagged as iK. I'd like the kanji form kept as although wrong, it's sadly common. I want a keep an eye on the text-glossing aspect. I notice Yahoo says ""とんでもない" ではありませんか？" |
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+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> |
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A* 2010-08-29 00:11:14 Scott
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You could place it in a note. |
| 2. |
A* 2010-08-28 23:39:12 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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the kanji headword is wrong, and it's rare in comparison to the kana version. i don't really want a 'wrong' headword to be the only one we have, even if it's [uk]. but it's common enough to be worth having.
maybe 飛んでもない[とんでもない] should get its own entry that redirects to とんでもない? otherwise 飛んでもない could be placed in a note, or we could have a note that the kanji are wrong |
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A* 2010-08-28 19:31:38 Scott
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必携 類語実用辞典 |
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@@ -4,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>飛んでもない</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,6 +11,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>とんでもありません</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>とんでもございません</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -16,0 +13,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -24,0 +22,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
@@ -35,0 +34,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |