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jmdict 2428160 Active (id: 2298507)

ざり
1. [aux-v,vr] [arch]
《after a -nai stem》
▶ not
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2098050 ざる 1. not; un-



History:
6. A 2024-04-19 01:37:38  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I agree.
5. A* 2024-04-18 23:07:54  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I don't think we need etymological info for an archaic term. Shinmeikai doesn't mention it. I also don't think it's helpful to describe it as a "supplementary form". It's not clear what it means.
I don't object to splitting out sense 2 into a separate entry.
  Diff:
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<pos>&aux;</pos>
+<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
@@ -10,2 +9,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2829645">ず</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2150170">あり・3</xref>
@@ -13 +11 @@
-<s_inf>supplementary form of 〜ず, from 〜ずあり; used after a -nai stem</s_inf>
+<s_inf>after a -nai stem</s_inf>
4. A* 2024-04-17 04:36:59  Non
  Refs:
daijr, daijs, meikyo
  Comments:
Proposals: Slightly more detailed explanation concerning morphology/etymology. Cross-references to the morphemes that make up said morphology/etymology. Addition of tag [vr]; being made from あり has the consequence of ざり's conjugation table being of the ラ変 pattern.
Removal of [2] and subsequent relocation into its own entry as the two ざり bear no direct connection to each other; however, as this last suggestion is not consistent with other entries that will often group distinct homographs under one item - such as the entry for the auxiliary ない - I will not object to its rejection.
  Diff:
@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+<pos>&vr;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2829645">ず</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2150170">あり・3</xref>
@@ -10 +13 @@
-<s_inf>from 〜ずあり; used after a -nai stem</s_inf>
+<s_inf>supplementary form of 〜ず, from 〜ずあり; used after a -nai stem</s_inf>
@@ -12,6 +14,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<s_inf>from 〜ぞあり; usu. as 〜にざりける</s_inf>
-<gloss>is</gloss>
-<gloss>are</gloss>
3. A 2018-02-28 10:33:07  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
2. A* 2018-02-20 22:50:34  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Diff:
@@ -10,2 +10,2 @@
-<s_inf>from 〜ずあり</s_inf>
-<gloss>(used after a -nai stem) not ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 〜ずあり; used after a -nai stem</s_inf>
+<gloss>not</gloss>
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