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糸瓜；天糸瓜 [rK] ；糸爪 [sK]
【へちま [gikun] ；ヘチマ (nokanji) 】

1.	[n] [uk] ▶ sponge gourd (Luffa aegyptiaca) ▶ Egyptian cucumber ▶ Vietnamese luffa ▶ dishcloth gourd
2.	[n] [uk] ▶ loofah (bath sponge) ▶ loofa ▶ luffa ▶ vegetable sponge
3.	[n] [uk] 《usu. as ...も〜もない, ...も〜もあるものか, etc.》 ▶ worthless thing ▶ insignificant thing

History:

15.	A 2024-02-21 02:06:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
14.	A* 2024-02-21 01:09:31 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	meikyo, daij, gg5
	Comments:	天糸瓜 is in the kokugos.
	Diff:	@@ -9 +9 @@ -<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -29 +29 @@ -<gloss>dishrag gourd</gloss> +<gloss>dishcloth gourd</gloss> @@ -34 +34 @@ -<gloss>loofah</gloss> +<gloss>loofah (bath sponge)</gloss> @@ -35,0 +36 @@ +<gloss>luffa</gloss> @@ -41,2 +42,3 @@ -<gloss>something useless</gloss> -<gloss>something irrelevant</gloss> +<s_inf>usu. as ...も〜もない, ...も〜もあるものか, etc.</s_inf> +<gloss>worthless thing</gloss> +<gloss>insignificant thing</gloss>
13.	A 2024-02-19 11:12:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	糸瓜 17584 8.3% 天糸瓜 53 0.0% 糸爪 0 0.0% へちま 91344 43.1% ヘチマ 102943 48.6%
	Comments:	I guess it's obvious.
	Diff:	@@ -8,0 +9 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -12 +13 @@ -<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -40,0 +42 @@ +<gloss>something irrelevant</gloss>
12.	A* 2024-02-19 08:42:44 Marcus Richert
	Comments:	I don't think that note added much.
	Diff:	@@ -40 +39,0 @@ -<s_inf>metaphorically, generally in negative sentences</s_inf>
11.	A 2016-04-20 12:41:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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10.	A* 2016-04-20 10:38:46 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Both spellings seem to be used
	Diff:	@@ -32,0 +33 @@ +<gloss>loofah</gloss>
9.	A 2016-04-20 07:05:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Fair enough.
8.	A* 2016-04-20 05:49:05 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5: ヘチマでこする
	Comments:	The plant species / vegetable and the bathroom sponge could be separate senses
	Diff:	@@ -32,0 +33,6 @@ +<gloss>loofa</gloss> +<gloss>vegetable sponge</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc>
7.	A 2016-04-19 23:18:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6.	A* 2016-04-19 12:29:59 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	jwiki(ヘチマ) wiki(Luffa aegyptiaca) gg5 koj daijs
	Diff:	@@ -25,8 +25,4 @@ -<gloss>sponge gourd</gloss> -<gloss>dishcloth gourd</gloss> -<gloss>loofah</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<misc>&uk;</misc> -<gloss>sponge cucumber</gloss> +<gloss>sponge gourd (Luffa aegyptiaca)</gloss> +<gloss>Egyptian cucumber</gloss> +<gloss>Vietnamese luffa</gloss> +<gloss>dishrag gourd</gloss>
5.	A* 2016-04-19 10:28:01 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I suspect sense 1 and 2 should be merged, that both refer to the species Luffa aegyptica (aka Luffa cylindrica)
4.	A 2016-04-19 02:16:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I agree. I've added a different sentence and will link to it instead.
3.	A* 2016-04-11 19:12:53
	Comments:	Hi, it is not obvious how the example sentence (でももヘチマもないわ。 "There's no but about it!") relates to any of the definitions.
2.	A 2014-03-08 06:30:48 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, ngrams
	Comments:	uk katakana by a huge margin
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +18,4 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>ヘチマ</reb> +<re_nokanji/> +</r_ele> @@ -19,0 +24 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -25,0 +31 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -30 +36,3 @@ -<gloss>(metaphorically, generally in negative sentences) something useless</gloss> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>metaphorically, generally in negative sentences</s_inf> +<gloss>something useless</gloss>
1.	A* 2014-03-08 05:11:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Ngrams (order)
	Comments:	糸爪 is certainly iK (it's another word), but I see it used a bit instead of 糸瓜, e.g. http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/糸爪の花
	Diff:	@@ -7,0 +8,3 @@ +<keb>天糸瓜</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -10,3 +12,0 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>天糸瓜</keb>

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