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[n,vs,vi]
▶ (meeting with) disaster ▶ (having an) accident ▶ mishap ▶ shipwreck ▶ distress |
9. | A 2024-02-18 01:07:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Better. |
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8. | A* 2024-02-17 21:15:27 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | To me, "encountering" sounds ambiguous here. 遭難 isn't used to mean "to stumble upon / discover / encounter a ship at sea that is in distress," for example. Maybe "meeting with" works better. |
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Diff: | @@ -20 +20 @@ -<gloss>(encountering a) disaster</gloss> +<gloss>(meeting with) disaster</gloss> |
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7. | A* 2024-02-17 04:47:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | It's an interesting nuance which the JEs evade. Perhaps this is closer. |
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Diff: | @@ -20,2 +20,2 @@ -<gloss>disaster</gloss> -<gloss>accident</gloss> +<gloss>(encountering a) disaster</gloss> +<gloss>(having an) accident</gloss> |
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6. | A* 2024-02-15 07:06:17 Ivan Ivanov | |
Comments: | I think it says it's a noun because it describes the state of encountering a disaster 「災難にあうこと」. Dictionaries don't say it means just 災難. It's the same with all nouns to which you are allowed to put する to. For example 勉強: the act of studying, 勉強する: to study. I think the current glosses are missleading and it's a pretty common word so beginners who don't use monolingual dictionaries won't know the true meaning of the word and won't know the difference between 遭難 and 災難. |
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5. | A 2024-02-15 00:30:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | GG5: a disaster; an accident; a mishap; 〔船の〕 (a) shipwreck; distress. ~する meet with 「a disaster [a mishap, an accident]; 〔船が〕 be wrecked; be in distress. 中辞典: a disaster; an accident; a mishap; 〈船の〉 (a) shipwreck ¶遭難する meet with ┏a disaster [an accident]; 〈船が〉 be in distress (難破・沈没の危険にさらされている); be wrecked (難破している); 〈船員・船客が〉 be shipwrecked Daijisen: [名][スル]災難に出あうこと。特に、登山や航海などで命を失うような危険にあうこと。「冬山で―する」 |
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Comments: | Daijisen says it's a noun. I think the original set of glosses were fine. |
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Diff: | @@ -20,2 +20,5 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1198180">遭う・2</xref> -<gloss>to encounter a disaster or accident</gloss> +<gloss>disaster</gloss> +<gloss>accident</gloss> +<gloss>mishap</gloss> +<gloss>shipwreck</gloss> +<gloss>distress</gloss> |
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