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[adj-i]
Dialect: ksb
▶ depressing ▶ dark (e.g. story) ▶ grim (e.g. expression) |
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[adj-i]
Dialect: ksb
▶ irritating ▶ annoying ▶ tedious (work, person, etc.) ▶ boring |
14. | A 2024-02-01 06:49:04 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | Probably OK. The JEs don't split senses but I think this makes sense. |
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13. | A* 2024-01-15 15:35:40 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | sankoku senses of 辛気: [1] (もと関西方言)気がくさくさして、めいるようすだ。暗い。「ー話」 [2] (関西・中部・中国方言) いらだたしい。じれったい。 心気くさい 39 30.0% 心気臭い 91 70.0% vs. 辛気臭い 15881 70.1% 辛気くさい 6777 29.9% 心気 18376 99.3% <----- this seems more likely to be totally unrelated 心気くさい 39 0.2% 心気臭い 91 0.5% |
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Comments: | I encountered this as [1](example below). More comments at the main 心気 entry. I think 心気 is clearly its own thing by the ngrams(18376), and by the counts given for 心気くさい(~100), I think this kanji is best hidden under [sK] as a spelling error. sankoku splits the senses [1] and [2]. I sometimes see these entries were very unrelated glosses are sitting next to each other to avoid splitting senses... In the context I saw this was distinctly nothing to do with annoyance or irritation. I'm not sure how to interpret sankoku's dialect notes. Note that they are different for [1] and [2]. The もと in (もと関西方言) suggests to me that this *was* kansai-ben, but is now more generally recognized? Do we note this("formerly kansaiben?") [2] is still recorded as a strictly regional dialect, but is more broad than kansaiben. (関西・中部・中国方言) The use I encountered was by a young, brash, anime warrior-type character, and I know these figures often get "rough" dialects assigned to them, but I'm not an expert on that. Frieren: 俺がこの村に来たとき、みんな辛気くさい顔して、竜の恐怖におびえていた。そんな連中がさ、今で幸せそう笑っているんだよ When I arrived here, all of the villagers wore grim expressions and lived in fear of the dragon. Now those people are smiling happily ==== I swapped kanji ordering purely on the ngrams where the kanji form has a 3-1 lead, though くさい was written in kanji where I encountered it. |
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Diff: | @@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>辛気臭い</keb> +</k_ele> @@ -8,3 +10,0 @@ -<keb>辛気臭い</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> @@ -11,0 +12 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -14,0 +16 @@ +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -21,0 +24,7 @@ +<gloss>depressing</gloss> +<gloss>dark (e.g. story)</gloss> +<gloss>grim (e.g. expression)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&adj-i;</pos> +<dial>&ksb;</dial> @@ -26,2 +34,0 @@ -<gloss>depressing</gloss> -<gloss>dark (e.g. story)</gloss> |
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12. | A 2019-03-31 01:08:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
11. | A* 2019-03-31 00:03:54 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I don't think "fretful" or the example on the first gloss are helpful. Reordered glosses slightly. |
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Diff: | @@ -22,4 +22,4 @@ -<gloss>irritating (e.g. tone of voice)</gloss> -<gloss>fretful</gloss> -<gloss>boring (e.g. work)</gloss> -<gloss>tedious (chore, person)</gloss> +<gloss>irritating</gloss> +<gloss>annoying</gloss> +<gloss>tedious (work, person, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>boring</gloss> |
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10. | A 2012-06-25 01:20:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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