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1. |
[n]
[uk]
▶ corner ▶ nook ▶ recess |
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2. |
[n]
[uk]
《also written as 暈》 ▶ shade ▶ shadow ▶ dark area |
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3. |
[n]
[uk]
《oft. written as クマ》 ▶ dark circles (under the eyes) ▶ dark rings
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4. |
[n]
[poet]
▶ bend (in a road, river, etc.) |
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5. |
[n]
[abbr]
▶ shading ▶ gradation
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6. |
[n]
[abbr]
▶ kumadori ▶ [expl] style of kabuki makeup used for violent roles
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9. | A 2024-01-17 21:26:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | daijs:(1)曲がって入り込んだ所。また、奥まった所。もののすみ。片隅。「川の―」 meikyo:(1)曲がって入り込んだ所。また、奥まって隠れた所。物陰。片隅かたすみ。「川の━に船を着ける」「残る━なく探す」 川のくま 0 川の隈 0 道のくま 74 道の隈 179 |
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Comments: | It's a Chinese to Japanese dictionary, i.e. those 曲 and 阿 entries are Chinese words, not Japanese. It's not suitable as a reference. 暈 is still visible but in a note instead of the kanji field. This is our usual practice for forms that only apply to one or two senses. Daijs/meikyo/smk do it the same way. 目の下に暈 gets zero Google hits. "bend" is not a separate sense in daijs and meikyo. But this usage appears to be quite rare. It should probably be lower down. Smk describes it as "雅語". |
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Diff: | @@ -32 +31,0 @@ -<gloss>bend (in a road, river, etc.)</gloss> @@ -47,0 +47,5 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&poet;</misc> +<gloss>bend (in a road, river, etc.)</gloss> |
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8. | A* 2024-01-17 04:27:12 penname01 | |
Refs: | smk: ㊁濃い色と薄い色とが接する所。〔狭義では、「隈取㊁」の略。例、「━をとる」〕 ㊂過労などのために目のまわりに出来る黒いあざのようなもの。 ㊁㊂は、「暈」とも書く。 daijs: ③ (「暈」とも書く)色の濃い部分と淡い部分、あるいは、光と陰とが接する部分。また、色の濃い部分。「目の下に―ができる」 |
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Comments: | 1. it's not a chinese dictionary, it's a japanese 中日辞典 made by 三省堂, i think it does have at least some legitimacy to kanji usage plus, all the dictionaries that have "曲" (which seem to be the minority as most have only 隈 and 暈) also have the "へんぴな所" definition 2. 暈 does seem to be used for dark circles under the eye 3. isn't the policy to keep forms in multiple kokugos visible? 4. i don't think the "bend" can be added to sense 1 as daijr, smk, shinkoku and koj all have it as a separate sense also this is just my opinion but i don't think restr tags clutter the entry, but i understand the reluctance to use them here as there's no kokugo to follow from |
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7. | A 2024-01-16 19:37:45 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | 目の下に暈 0 |
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Comments: | The kokugos have no restrictions for 曲 or 阿. I don't think we can use Chinese dictionaries as a guide to Japanese kanji usage. Also, it's not worth cluttering the entry with restr tags for such rare forms. I think "bend" can be added to sense 1. smk has "〈暈〉とも書く" for its "濃い色と薄い色とが接する所" sense but our glosses are more specific. 暈 isn't used for dark circles under the eyes. The "remote place" sense is archaic. I don't think it's needed. |
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Diff: | @@ -6,4 +5,0 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>暈</keb> -<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -18,0 +15,4 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>暈</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> @@ -27 +26,0 @@ -<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -32,0 +32 @@ +<gloss>bend (in a road, river, etc.)</gloss> @@ -35,2 +34,0 @@ -<stagk>隈</stagk> -<stagk>暈</stagk> @@ -38,0 +37 @@ +<s_inf>also written as 暈</s_inf> @@ -44,2 +42,0 @@ -<stagk>隈</stagk> -<stagk>暈</stagk> @@ -48 +45 @@ -<s_inf>usu. as クマ</s_inf> +<s_inf>oft. written as クマ</s_inf> @@ -53 +49,0 @@ -<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -61 +56,0 @@ -<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -67,14 +61,0 @@ -</sense> -<sense> -<stagk>隈</stagk> -<stagk>曲</stagk> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<gloss>remote place</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<stagk>隈</stagk> -<stagk>阿</stagk> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf> -<gloss>bend (in a road, river, etc)</gloss> -<gloss>curved location</gloss> |
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6. | A* 2024-01-16 07:56:54 penname01 | |
Refs: | dicts that only have "隈": sankoku, smk (also 暈), meikyo (also 暈), shinkoku, obunsha, saito, iwakoku dicts that have "曲" and "阿": daijr/s, koj, nikk 1. (三省堂)超級クラウン中日辞典 for 曲 4th def: 語素(形態素)へんぴな所. 乡曲片田舎. 2. (三省堂)超級クラウン中日辞典 for 阿 ē 2nd def: 名詞文語・書面語くぼみや曲がった場所. 山阿山の奥. Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 目の下にクマ │ 15,919 │ 68.0% │ │ 目の下に隈 │ 4,327 │ 18.5% │ │ 目の下にくま │ 3,165 │ 13.5% │ ╰─ーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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Comments: | from my analysis: - "曲" refers to remote places (point 1 + all the dicts that have it also have a definition for "へんぴな所"), added new sense (which is present as 古語 in shinkoku as well) - "阿" refers to bent/curved places (point 2, similar defs in multiple dict), added new sense (should be original meaning according to smk) |
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Diff: | @@ -7,0 +8,4 @@ +<keb>暈</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -8,0 +13 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -11,0 +17 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -15,0 +22,4 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>クマ</reb> +<re_inf>&sk;</re_inf> +</r_ele> @@ -16,0 +27 @@ +<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -23,0 +35,2 @@ +<stagk>隈</stagk> +<stagk>暈</stagk> @@ -30,0 +44,2 @@ +<stagk>隈</stagk> +<stagk>暈</stagk> @@ -32,0 +48 @@ +<s_inf>usu. as クマ</s_inf> @@ -36,0 +53 @@ +<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -43,0 +61 @@ +<stagk>隈</stagk> @@ -48,0 +67,14 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<stagk>隈</stagk> +<stagk>曲</stagk> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>remote place</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<stagk>隈</stagk> +<stagk>阿</stagk> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<s_inf>orig. meaning</s_inf> +<gloss>bend (in a road, river, etc)</gloss> +<gloss>curved location</gloss> |
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5. | A 2020-04-05 21:43:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
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