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A 2023-12-18 00:29:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-12-17 19:18:35 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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sankoku, iwakoku, smk, meikyo, and daijr/s have いきさつ marked as a jukujikun |
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@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<re_inf>&gikun;</re_inf> |
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A 2023-06-30 01:45:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-06-30 01:08:44 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5, daij, meikyo |
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I think たてよこ should be a separate entry. We currently have it on two entries, which isn't ideal.
I think たてぬき should be a separate entry. It only applies to one sense.
I don't think "how it started" and "whole story" are great glosses. |
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@@ -17,7 +16,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>たてぬき</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>たてよこ</reb>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
@@ -25,2 +17,0 @@
-<stagr>けいい</stagr>
-<stagr>いきさつ</stagr>
@@ -30 +20,0 @@
-<gloss>whole story</gloss>
@@ -32 +21,0 @@
-<gloss>chronology</gloss>
@@ -34 +23 @@
-<gloss>how it started</gloss>
+<gloss>situation</gloss>
@@ -44,2 +32,0 @@
-<stagr>たてぬき</stagr>
-<stagr>たてよこ</stagr>
@@ -47,2 +33,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1579920">縦横・たてよこ・4</xref>
-<s_inf>orig. meaning of けいい</s_inf> |
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A 2023-06-29 07:07:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Probably reasonable. Most references split. I see ルミナス only has けいい. |
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@@ -10,0 +11,2 @@
+<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
+<re_pri>nf04</re_pri>
@@ -14,2 +15,0 @@
-<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf04</re_pri> |
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A* 2023-06-29 03:54:51
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@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@
+<reb>けいい</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -13,3 +15,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>けいい</reb>
@@ -24,0 +25 @@
+<stagr>けいい</stagr>
@@ -26 +26,0 @@
-<stagr>けいい</stagr> |
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A 2015-06-22 22:41:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-06-22 04:23:28 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Google ngrams:
経緯 2328101
いきさつ 261311
けいい 11468
たてぬき 228
たてよこ 8664 |
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I don't think we can really demonstrate いきさつ is usually kana. Google hits and images show sense 1 dominates for 経緯, and 経緯+いきさつ gets a lot more hits than 経緯+けいい. |
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-<s_inf>いきさつ is usually kana</s_inf> |
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A* 2015-06-17 06:15:14 luce
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prog, eij have kana for いきさつ |
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I agree with Rene about いきさつ
since the restrictions are this tight, would this entry be worth a split? sense 1 in one entry, and senses 2 and 3 in a different one |
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@@ -27,0 +28 @@
+<s_inf>いきさつ is usually kana</s_inf> |
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A 2011-08-22 07:28:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Seems fine. |
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A* 2011-08-22 06:42:45 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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oops. i added these. but i'm not sure they're justified. |
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@@ -8,1 +8,0 @@
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> |
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A* 2011-08-22 06:42:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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@@ -17,1 +17,0 @@
-<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> |
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A* 2011-08-22 06:38:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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link to another entry with the same reading and meaning (daijr and daijs merge, which would be messy as long as たてよこ is part of this entry) |
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@@ -49,0 +49,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1579920">縦横・たてよこ・4</xref> |
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A* 2011-08-22 06:26:47 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij, gg5, meikyo, prog, nc |
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-not sure, but i suspect いきさつ is more common for the most common meaning of this term (i also suspect that いきさつ is uk, whereas けいい is not).
-daijr and daijs list けいい as [vs], but i don't see how any of these meanings can possibly be [vs], and i don't see any examples. i suspect it only applies to the final archaic sense (秩序を立てて治め整えること). meikyo lacks this sense and doesn't list this term as [vs] |
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@@ -8,0 +8,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -10,1 +11,1 @@
-<reb>けいい</reb>
+<reb>いきさつ</reb>
@@ -15,1 +16,9 @@
-<reb>いきさつ</reb>
+<reb>けいい</reb>
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たてぬき</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たてよこ</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
@@ -18,0 +27,2 @@
+<stagr>いきさつ</stagr>
+<stagr>けいい</stagr>
@@ -19,1 +30,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
@@ -21,0 +31,1 @@
+<gloss>particulars</gloss>
@@ -24,1 +35,1 @@
-<gloss>particulars</gloss>
+<gloss>circumstances</gloss>
@@ -29,0 +40,1 @@
+<stagr>けいい</stagr>
@@ -30,3 +42,10 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<gloss>complications</gloss>
-<gloss>position</gloss>
+<gloss>longitude and latitude</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<stagr>けいい</stagr>
+<stagr>たてぬき</stagr>
+<stagr>たてよこ</stagr>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<s_inf>orig. meaning of けいい</s_inf>
+<gloss>warp and weft</gloss>
+<gloss>warp and woof</gloss> |