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A 2023-12-04 22:17:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think that's plenty of forms. |
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A* 2023-12-04 18:55:07 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Reopening for review by other editors. |
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A 2023-12-04 18:53:28 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues
https://groups.google.com/g/edict-jmdict/ |
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Not really a conversation to be had here.
Feel free to start a new discussion on the github issues forum or mailing list. |
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A* 2023-12-04 18:20:18
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"とじ籠もる"* |
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A* 2023-12-04 18:18:05
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i see no downside in including many search-only forms
if they're used in the wild (twitter, etc.) they might appear somewhere else and are useful
for example "とじ籠こもる" is at the very least used in a ranpo novel |
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A* 2023-12-04 18:13:50 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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The forms without the -も- okurigana are irregular. See the comments on entry 1593430・籠もる.
Since they're irregular and rare, I am hiding them.
〈閉（じ）／とじ〉〈篭（も）／籠（も）／込も／こも〉っ
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 閉じこもっ │ 144,694 │ 91.1% │
│ 閉じ篭っ │ 3,875 │ 2.4% │
│ 閉じ籠っ │ 1,929 │ 1.2% │
│ 閉じ籠もっ │ 1,298 │ 0.8% │
│ 閉じ込もっ │ 927 │ 0.6% │
│ 閉じ篭もっ │ 482 │ 0.3% │
│ 閉篭もっ │ 70 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉籠もっ │ 63 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉籠っ │ 28 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉篭っ │ 26 │ 0.0% │
│ とじ込もっ │ 24 │ 0.0% │
│ とじ籠っ │ 23 │ 0.0% │
│ とじこもっ │ 5,352 │ 3.4% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯ |
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The top 6 kanji forms make up over 99.9% of the kanji form counts, but I've included the top 10.
I don't think we need any more, even if the other forms do get a few web hits. |
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@@ -11 +11 @@
-<keb>閉じ篭る</keb>
+<keb>閉じ籠もる</keb>
@@ -15,5 +15 @@
-<keb>閉じ籠る</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>閉じ籠もる</keb>
+<keb>閉じ篭もる</keb>
@@ -27 +23 @@
-<keb>閉じ篭もる</keb>
+<keb>閉じ籠る</keb>
@@ -31,5 +27 @@
-<keb>閉篭る</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とじ籠る</keb>
+<keb>閉じ篭る</keb>
@@ -42,0 +35,4 @@
+<keb>閉篭もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -47,25 +43 @@
-<keb>とじ篭る</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>閉篭もる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とじ篭もる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とじ籠もる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>閉じ込る</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>とじ込もる</keb>
-<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>閉こもる</keb>
+<keb>閉篭る</keb> |
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A* 2023-12-04 17:38:18
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 閉篭る │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add sK
│ 閉じ篭る │ 956 │ 2.4% │ add rK
│ とじ篭る │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ 閉篭もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ 閉じ篭もる │ 173 │ 0.4% │ add sK
│ とじ篭もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK
│ 閉籠る │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add sK (smk, shinkoku, iwakoku)
│ 閉じ籠る │ 530 │ 1.3% │ add rK (smk, shinkoku, gg5, obunsha, shinjirin, iwakoku)
│ とじ籠る │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (seems to be used in novels, at least ranpo's)
│ 閉籠もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (smk, shinkoku, daijs, iwakoku)
│ 閉じ籠もる │ 465 │ 1.2% │ add rK (sankoku, daijr/s, meikyo, smk, shinkoku, obunsha, nikk, iwakoku, koj)
│ とじ籠もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ 閉込る │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉じ込る │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ とじ込る │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉込もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │
│ 閉じ込もる │ 306 │ 0.8% │ add sK
│ とじ込もる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ 閉こもる │ 0 │ 0.0% │ add, sK (a few web hits)
│ 閉じこもる │ 36,159 │ 90.6% │
│ とじこもる │ 1,325 │ 3.3% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +16 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17,0 +20,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉じ込もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -21,3 +28 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>閉じ込もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26,0 +32,9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とじ籠る</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉籠もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -29,0 +44,29 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とじ篭る</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉篭もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とじ篭もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とじ籠もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉じ込る</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>とじ込もる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉こもる</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2019-06-11 11:41:31 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
閉じこもる 36159
閉じ篭る 956
閉じ籠る 530
閉じ籠もる 465
閉じ篭もる 173
閉じ込もる 306
閉篭る No matches
閉籠る No matches |
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@@ -13,0 +14,9 @@
+<keb>閉じ籠る</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉じ籠もる</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>閉じ篭もる</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -17 +26 @@
-<keb>閉じ籠る</keb>
+<keb>閉篭る</keb>
@@ -20 +29 @@
-<keb>閉篭る</keb>
+<keb>閉籠る</keb> |