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淵 [news1,nf16] ；渕；潭 [rK] ；渊 [rK]
【ふち [news1,nf16] 】

[n]
▶ deep pool
▶ deep water
▶ abyss

Cross references:
	⇔ see: 1374360 瀬 1. shallows; shoal

[n]
▶ depths (e.g. of despair)
▶ grip (e.g. of death)

History:

8.	A 2023-12-02 23:53:40 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -34 +34 @@ -<gloss>depths (e.g. of despair, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>depths (e.g. of despair)</gloss>
7.	A 2023-12-02 00:59:28 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I note the JEs use kana for examples.
6.	A* 2023-12-01 23:55:25
	Refs:	Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ー─┬─────────┬───────╮ │ 淵 │ 825,048 │ 77.2% │ │ 潭 │ 57,985 │ 5.4% │ │ 渊 │ 1,348 │ 0.1% │ │ 渕 │ 184,764 │ 17.3% │ ╰─ー─┴─────────┴───────╯
	Diff:	@@ -9,0 +10,3 @@ +<keb>渕</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -10,0 +14 @@ +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> @@ -14,3 +18 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>渕</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
5.	A 2014-11-11 18:45:50 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	in my opinion, a single source is not adequate evidence for the addition of the alleged gikun
	Comments:	please discuss the addition of these gikun readings on the mailing list https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/edict-jmdict/info === i am temporarily rejecting this amendment to approve a change in xref type (瀬 is not really an antonym)
	Diff:	@@ -23,5 +22,0 @@ -<r_ele> -<reb>わだ</reb> -<re_inf>&gikun;</re_inf> -<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> -</r_ele> @@ -30,6 +25 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ・1</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ</xref> -<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ</xref> -<xref type="ant" seq="1374360">瀬・1</xref> -<s_inf>わだ, referring to the sea (the deep), is an obsolete gikun reading for 淵 found in Meiji period literature</s_inf> +<xref type="see" seq="1374360">瀬・1</xref>
4.	A* 2014-11-11 09:18:18 Matt Bloedel <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -29,0 +30 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ・1</xref> @@ -32 +32,0 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ・1</xref> @@ -34 +34 @@ -<s_inf>わだ referring to the sea (the deep) is an obsolete gikun reading for 淵 found in Meiji period literature</s_inf> +<s_inf>わだ, referring to the sea (the deep), is an obsolete gikun reading for 淵 found in Meiji period literature</s_inf>
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3.	A* 2014-11-11 09:10:41 Matt <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gikun reading わだ found in 文語訳(明治訳)舊約聖書
	Comments:	Note I added the cross reference [see=海・わだ]. I also proposed deleting the meaning "beach" from 海 (which I submitted separately for that entry) since alone it doesn't really mean beach, except by association. One might say, "Let's go to the sea" and be taken to mean "go to the beach" but does that mean beach should be listed as a meaning? Maybe it should be a separate sense?
	Diff:	@@ -22,0 +23,5 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>わだ</reb> +<re_inf>&gikun;</re_inf> +<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> +</r_ele> @@ -24,0 +30,2 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1201190">海・わだ</xref> @@ -25,0 +33 @@ +<s_inf>わだ referring to the sea (the deep) is an obsolete gikun reading for 淵 found in Meiji period literature</s_inf>
2.	A 2012-08-22 00:18:35 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	supposed iK forms are actually itaiji of 淵.
	Diff:	@@ -14,1 +14,0 @@ -<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> @@ -18,1 +17,0 @@ -<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> @@ -29,0 +27,1 @@ +<gloss>deep water</gloss> @@ -33,2 +32,2 @@ -<gloss>depths (of a difficult to escape predicament, e.g. despair, oblivion)</gloss> -<gloss>grip (e.g. death)</gloss> +<gloss>depths (e.g. of despair, etc.)</gloss> +<gloss>grip (e.g. of death)</gloss>
1.	A* 2012-08-17 17:31:40 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5 daijr koj
	Comments:	Split off metaphorical sense Fix redirect to only proper sense
	Diff:	@@ -27,1 +27,1 @@ -<xref type="ant" seq="1374360">瀬</xref> +<xref type="ant" seq="1374360">瀬・1</xref> @@ -30,1 +30,5 @@ -<gloss>the depths</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>depths (of a difficult to escape predicament, e.g. despair, oblivion)</gloss> +<gloss>grip (e.g. death)</gloss>

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