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jmdict 2094880 Active (id: 2284269)
中華そば中華蕎麦 [rK]
ちゅうかそば
1. [n] {food, cooking}
▶ Chinese noodles (esp. ramen)
Cross references:
  ⇐ see: 2094870 支那そば【しなそば】 1. Chinese soba; ramen



History:
7. A 2023-11-25 06:50:09  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 中華そば   │ 549,883 │ 98.0% │
│ 中華蕎麦   │  10,248 │  1.8% │ - rK
│ ちゅうかそば │   1,220 │  0.2% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯
  Diff:
@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +16 @@
+<field>&food;</field>
6. A 2013-02-16 09:06:52  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
koj, daij, etc.
  Comments:
yes, i think this was one of mine and that was intended as a literal translation.  not buckwheat
  Diff:
@@ -15,2 +15,1 @@
-<gloss>ramen</gloss>
-<gloss>Chinese noodles</gloss>
+<gloss>Chinese noodles (esp. ramen)</gloss>
5. A* 2013-02-16 08:12:23  Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
The Google images don't seem to have the distinctive darker 
colour of buckwheat noodles.
4. A* 2013-02-16 08:05:46  Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
Searching Wikipedia for 中華そば, you end up at the Wikipedia article on ラーメン:
ラーメン(中華そばから転送)
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/中華そば
.
That article contains 17 instances of the term 中華そば.
e.g. ラーメンは、茹でた中華麺と汁(スープ)と具からなる日本の料理。漢字表記は拉麺または老麺・柳麺。別
名は中華そばおよび支那そば・南京そばなど。
.
- 明鏡 says 中華風の麺類。特に、ラーメン。 
- Shogakukan Progessive says simply "Chinese noodles"
  Comments:
- Is 中華そば really soba (buckwheat noodles), or is it in fact just ramen?
- It seems that at least the "ramen" sense should be moved to the start of 
the definition.
- I think it's another example (like やきそば) where "soba" refers to noodles, 
*not* specifically buckwheat noodles.
  Diff:
@@ -15,2 +15,0 @@
-<gloss>Chinese buckwheat noodles</gloss>
-<gloss>Chinese soba</gloss>
@@ -18,0 +16,1 @@
+<gloss>Chinese noodles</gloss>
3. A 2011-05-31 06:05:10  Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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