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A 2023-11-22 23:51:08 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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立合 9,226 - add, sK
立ちあい 2,620 - add, sK |
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Adding [nf11] tag to reading |
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@@ -24,0 +25,8 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立合</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立ちあい</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -27,0 +36 @@
+<re_pri>nf11</re_pri> |
| 12. |
A 2023-11-22 23:43:56 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
These got lost in the merge. |
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Diff: |
@@ -17,0 +18,2 @@
+<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
+<ke_pri>nf11</ke_pri> |
| 11. |
A 2023-11-22 23:42:08 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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立会いを 27,672
立ち会いを 10,628
立会を 5,547 |
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Comments: |
I think 立ち会い should come before 立会. |
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Diff: |
@@ -9,3 +8,0 @@
-<keb>立会</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -14,0 +12,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立会</keb> |
| 10. |
A* 2023-11-21 00:17:17 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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立会い 383637
立会 215830
立ち会い 163940
立ち合い 56557
立合い 16209 |
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Comments: |
OK, here is a possible merge. I'll flag 1837700 for deletion. |
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Diff: |
@@ -17,0 +18,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立合い</keb>
@@ -36,0 +40,8 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<field>&sumo;</field>
+<s_inf>esp. 立ち合い</s_inf>
+<gloss>rising from a crouch to charge</gloss>
+<gloss>initial charge</gloss>
+<gloss>face-off</gloss> |
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A* 2023-11-16 17:54:39 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Or rather than having a note on every sense, just having an "esp. 立ち合い" note on the sumo sense. |
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A* 2023-11-16 16:51:48 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Newest editions of shinmeikai, iwakoku, and kojien have the 会 and 合 entries merged.
Shinmeikai says "「立ち合い」とも書く" on the sumo sense. Iwakoku doesn't bother making any distinction. |
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I'd be in favor of merging the entries and adding "esp. 立ちxい" notes to each sense without any sense restrictions.
I think that's clearer and cleaner than "sometimes written" notes and entry cross-references, which I think are confusing. |
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Diff: |
@@ -34,0 +35 @@
+<field>&stockm;</field> |
| 7. |
A* 2023-11-16 08:10:06 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think it's best to keep 立ち合い out of sight. It's not related. |
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Diff: |
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -28 +27,0 @@
-<s_inf>sometimes written 立ち合い</s_inf> |
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A* 2023-11-16 07:27:09 Nicolas Maia
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More useful this way. |
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Diff: |
@@ -14,0 +15,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立ち合い</keb>
+<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf> |
| 5. |
A 2017-01-28 10:20:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
立会い 383637
立ち会い 163940
立会 215830 |
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Diff: |
@@ -8,0 +9,3 @@
+<keb>立会</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -12,3 +14,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>立会</keb> |
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A* 2017-01-11 23:42:07 Robin Scott
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daijr/s, ウィズダム和英辞典, プログレッシブ和英中辞典
KM n-grams:
立ち会い 10082
立会い 8794
立会 8599 |
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It's not obvious which written form is most common. Google n-grams might be helpful. |
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Diff: |
@@ -12,0 +13,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立会</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -22,2 +25,4 @@
-<gloss>presence (e.g. of observer)</gloss>
-<gloss>attendance</gloss>
+<gloss>presence (e.g. of an observer)</gloss>
+<gloss>observation</gloss>
+<gloss>observer</gloss>
+<gloss>witness</gloss>
@@ -27,2 +32 @@
-<gloss>session</gloss>
-<gloss>market</gloss>
+<gloss>trading session (at an exchange)</gloss> |
| 3. |
A 2014-01-03 10:47:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
| 2. |
A* 2013-12-25 04:50:29 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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not the same kanji. 会 vs 合 (合 seems to have been accidentally dropped in this merge). kojien and shinmeikai combine but with a note similar to a sense restriction. i think it's tidier to keep separate with x-ref between them |
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@@ -21,7 +21,2 @@
-<field>&sumo;</field>
-<gloss>rising from a crouch to charge</gloss>
-<gloss>initial charge</gloss>
-<gloss>faceoff</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1837700">立ち合い</xref>
+<s_inf>sometimes written 立ち合い</s_inf> |
| 1. |
A* 2013-12-04 00:44:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Ngrams, GG5 |
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Comments: |
Merging 1837700.
No ref combines these, but 2/3 rule applies - same kanji, same reading. Google images dominated by Sumo examples. |
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Diff: |
@@ -4,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>立会い</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -13,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
@@ -16,1 +21,12 @@
-<gloss>presence</gloss>
+<field>&sumo;</field>
+<gloss>rising from a crouch to charge</gloss>
+<gloss>initial charge</gloss>
+<gloss>faceoff</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>presence (e.g. of observer)</gloss>
+<gloss>attendance</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -18,0 +34,1 @@
+<gloss>market</gloss> |