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A 2023-11-11 01:30:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, odd about 洟提灯. |
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+<keb>洟提灯</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -13,4 +16,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>洟提灯</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -25 +24,0 @@
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A* 2023-11-10 15:51:25 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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here is our only problem:
https://kotobank.jp/word/洟提灯-684558
洟提灯 はな‐ぢょうちん〔‐ヂヤウチン〕【×洟▽提▽灯】
but if you ask daijs, 鼻提灯 doesn't even exist, so...
鼻ちょうちん 9605 49.3%
はなちょうちん 7772 39.9%
鼻提灯 2073 10.6%
洟ちょうちん 27 0.1%
洟提灯 0 0.0%
ぢょ variants:
鼻ぢょうちん 0 0.0%
洟ぢょうちん 0 0.0%
はなぢょうちん 0 0.0% |
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Should this be [col]? Daijs marks the appearance of this sense on 提灯 itself as 俗.
While you can't always determine everything from web searches, I think the ngrams on はなちょうちん(7772) vs はなぢょうちん(0) are fairly definitive, regardless of daijs' oddball 洟提灯 entry. (twitter usage mirrors this)
I cannot help but think we'd be better off with [sk] on はなぢょうちん, at least until the day someone shows up with real-world experience to the contrary.
I picked [ok] for lack of a better option. If we take daijs' word that it used to exist, well, it seems obsolete now... |
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+<keb>洟ちょうちん</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
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+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
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+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A 2018-04-08 06:17:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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More ateji than iK. |
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A* 2018-04-07 13:12:10 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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鼻ちょうちん and 鼻提灯 should arguably be iK but I don't
know if that's being overly pedantic or not. |
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A* 2018-04-07 10:52:21 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daij
ngrams
鼻ちょうちん 223
鼻提灯 52
洟提灯 No matches |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>洟提灯</keb>
+</k_ele>
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+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>はなぢょうちん</reb>
+<re_restr>鼻提灯</re_restr>
+<re_restr>洟提灯</re_restr> |
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A 2012-05-19 18:36:16 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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nasty |
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A* 2012-05-19 13:01:33 Paul Upchurch <...address hidden...>
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http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/提灯
「鼻提灯 鼻から垂れた鼻水に鼻息が混じり、膨らんだ様を提灯に見立てた表現。」
380k Google hits for "鼻ちょうちん" |
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Ordered by hits. |