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A 2023-10-19 22:05:14 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-10-19 14:58:11 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Discussion on github
https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/103#issuecomment-1768579663 |
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-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2023-01-22 11:44:23 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -9,3 +8,0 @@
-<reb>うんすんかるた</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -15 +12,2 @@
-<reb>うんすんカルタ</reb>
+<reb>うんすんかるた</reb>
+<re_nokanji/> |
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A 2021-06-17 21:15:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK |
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A* 2021-06-17 14:09:08 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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older version of nikk (on sakura-paris): 「ウンスン」はum sum（mo） ポルトガルか。一説にウンは大黒・福禄寿などの福の神の絵札...
more recent version (on kotobank) skips the "um summo" theory entirely: カードの呼び名の内のウンとスンとによる称。
(the two court cards unique to unsun and not in tensho decks are called "un" and "sun". their values are 14 and 15)
I think the alleged Portuguese origin of the word is just poorly founded speculation that's been thoughtlessly reproduced in various
dictionaries and encyclopedias. The earliest known mention of the game in literature is from the 1680's, long after the Portuguese
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-<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -21 +19,0 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="por" ls_wasei="y">un sum carta</lsource> |
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A 2021-06-17 02:10:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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ルミナス: unsun cards ★複数形で; (説明的には) the card game introduced from Portugal in the Muromachi period ★「ウンスン」はポルトガル語の un (1) sum (最高)から. |
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I'd stick with the wasei. |
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-<lsource xml:lang="por" ls_wasei="y">um sum carta</lsource>
+<lsource xml:lang="por" ls_wasei="y">un sum carta</lsource>
@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">Japanese deck of cards with 5 suits of 15 cards eachp0</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Japanese deck of cards with 5 suits of 15 cards each</gloss> |
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A* 2021-06-16 15:00:54 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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ウンスンカルタ 1045
うんすんかるた 1437
ウンスンかるた 151
うんすんカルタ 742
宇牟須牟加留多 50 |
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I've read extensively about this deck and I
think the consensus is it's extremely unlikely
it had been invented already by the Muromachi
period. Also it's not clear how popular it
really was. The game never died out either but
remains played to this day. I think describing
the unusual composition of the deck is better
than placing it in a specific time period.
Also I think a note might be better than an
lsrc. I'm not sure how well-attested that
etymology is. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="2430390">天正カルタ</xref>
@@ -22,2 +21,3 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="por">um sum carta</lsource>
-<gloss>unsun karuta (card game popular in the Muromachi and early Edo periods)</gloss>
+<lsource xml:lang="por" ls_wasei="y">um sum carta</lsource>
+<gloss>unsun karuta</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Japanese deck of cards with 5 suits of 15 cards eachp0</gloss> |
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A 2018-10-24 00:40:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Daijr, ルミナス |
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Both refs mention Muromachi. |
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-<gloss>unsun karuta (card game popular in the early Edo period)</gloss>
+<gloss>unsun karuta (card game popular in the Muromachi and early Edo periods)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-10-23 12:20:13 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daijs mypedia
うんすんかるた 1437
うんすんカルタ 742
ウンスンカルタ 1045 |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>宇牟須牟骨牌</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>うんすんかるた</reb>
+</r_ele>
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+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>うんすんカルタ</reb>
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-<s_inf>sometimes written 宇牟須牟骨牌</s_inf>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
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-<gloss>Edo-period Japanese card game</gloss>
+<gloss>unsun karuta (card game popular in the early Edo period)</gloss> |
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A 2005-03-05 00:00:00
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Entry created |