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jmdict 2710920 Active (id: 2277812)
迄も [rK]
までも [spec1]
1. [exp] [uk]
《more emphatic than まで》
▶ to (an extent)
▶ up to
▶ so far as
▶ even
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1525680 【まで】 3. to (an extent); up to; so far as; even
2. [exp] [uk]
《as ...までもない》
▶ there is no need to ...
▶ it should hardly be necessary to ...
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2098080 【までもない】 1. there is no need to ...; it should hardly be necessary to ...
3. [exp] [uk]
《as ...ないまでも》
▶ even if there is no need to ... (at least ...)



History:
10. A 2023-09-23 22:31:24  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
9. A* 2023-09-21 20:05:30  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
meikyo
  Comments:
Aligning sense 2.
Making sense 3 a bit clearer.
  Diff:
@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
@@ -13 +14 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1525680">迄・まで・3</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1525680">まで・3</xref>
@@ -25,3 +26,3 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as 〜までもない</s_inf>
-<gloss>doesn't amount to doing ...</gloss>
-<gloss>not significant enough to require ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>as ...までもない</s_inf>
+<gloss>there is no need to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>it should hardly be necessary to ...</gloss>
@@ -32,2 +33,2 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as 〜ないまでも</s_inf>
-<gloss>even if ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>as ...ないまでも</s_inf>
+<gloss>even if there is no need to ... (at least ...)</gloss>
8. A 2022-05-13 07:18:01  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
OK for the xref but the note is saying a bit more.
  Diff:
@@ -24,0 +25 @@
+<s_inf>usu. as 〜までもない</s_inf>
7. A* 2022-05-11 18:43:18  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
better to have this as a reference rather than a sense note?
  Diff:
@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2098080">までもない</xref>
@@ -25 +25,0 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as 〜までもない</s_inf>
6. A* 2022-05-11 17:32:48  Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
    33,612	  0.3%	迄も
10,889,344	 99.7%	までも
  Diff:
@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
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