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A 2023-07-01 23:09:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-07-01 20:19:59 mark dufour <...address hidden...>
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https://nativecamp.net/heync/question/12447
https://context.reverso.net/翻訳/日本語-英語/嘘に決まってるじゃん |
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encountered as 'kimatte iru ja nai ka' (so without the 'ni'), translated by native friend as 'isn't it obvious?' |
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@@ -20,0 +21 @@
+<gloss>it's obvious that ...</gloss> |
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A 2020-11-19 17:57:02 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-11-19 16:02:42 Frazer Robinson <...address hidden...>
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@@ -12 +12 @@
-<reb>きにまっている</reb>
+<reb>にきまっている</reb> |
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A 2020-11-19 08:03:10 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think that will work. There are 10 sentences linked, but I think they are all for senses 2 are are the に決まっている pattern. I'll fix them. |
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@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>決まっている</keb>
+<keb>に決まっている</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>決っている</keb>
+<keb>に決っている</keb>
@@ -12 +12 @@
-<reb>きまっている</reb>
+<reb>きにまっている</reb>
@@ -17,10 +16,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・きまる・1</xref>
-<gloss>to be fixed</gloss>
-<gloss>to be determined</gloss>
-<gloss>to be common</gloss>
-<gloss>to be destined</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<pos>&v1;</pos>
-<s_inf>as 〜に決まっている</s_inf>
@@ -31,7 +20,0 @@
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<pos>&v1;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・4</xref>
-<gloss>to look good (on)</gloss>
-<gloss>to be stylish</gloss> |
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A* 2020-11-11 23:51:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Given the newly expanded 決まる entry, I think it would be better to change this to に決まっている and drop senses 1 and 3.
These aren't the only senses of 決まる that can be used in the 〜ている form. We're even missing the most common "to be decided" one. |
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@@ -35 +35 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・きまる・2</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・4</xref> |
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A 2020-11-10 00:37:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Good point. I think that covers it better. I'll propose adding キマる to the 決まる entry and drop this one. |
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-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>キマっている</reb>
-<re_nokanji/> |
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A* 2020-11-09 19:50:46 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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決まる 2216938
キマる 44336 |
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I'm not sure it's needed either. The hits for キマっている are 0.2% of those for 決まっている. We don't have キマる, which is far more common. |
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A* 2020-11-09 19:17:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I saw it used in a couple of places. |
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A* 2020-11-09 09:23:32
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Comments: |
Is it really? You can probably get
more hits for タベる |
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A* 2020-11-09 04:53:56 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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決まっている 1206145
決っている 8134
キマっている 2641 |
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Worth mentioning. |
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@@ -12,0 +13,4 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>キマっている</reb>
+<re_nokanji/> |
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A 2019-12-31 05:46:11 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-12-30 17:55:43 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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gg5 example: "薬はまずいに決まっている" |
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Sense 2 is always に決まっている but not necessarily after a verb. |
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@@ -26,2 +26,3 @@
-<s_inf>usu. as Vに決まっている</s_inf>
-<gloss>ought to ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>as 〜に決まっている</s_inf>
+<gloss>sure to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>certain to ...</gloss>
@@ -29,2 +30 @@
-<gloss>doomed to ...</gloss>
-<gloss>sure to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>it's natural that ...</gloss> |
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A 2019-09-10 23:21:12 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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shinmeikai; 8134 ngrams |
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@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>決っている</keb>
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf> |
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A* 2019-09-09 11:09:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5 (決まっている entry), 中辞典 (決まる entry example)
に決まっている 253660
決まっている 1206145
10 Tanaka sentences for 決まっている, of which 7 are に決まっている
GG5 has heaps of 決まっている examples. |
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Comments: |
I think this is more useful. |
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@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>に決まっている</keb>
+<keb>決まっている</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<reb>にきまっている</reb>
+<reb>きまっている</reb>
@@ -12,2 +12,22 @@
-<gloss>it goes without saying</gloss>
-<gloss>it's natural that...</gloss>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・きまる・1</xref>
+<gloss>to be fixed</gloss>
+<gloss>to be determined</gloss>
+<gloss>to be common</gloss>
+<gloss>to be destined</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<s_inf>usu. as Vに決まっている</s_inf>
+<gloss>ought to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>bound to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>doomed to ...</gloss>
+<gloss>sure to ...</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1591420">決まる・きまる・2</xref>
+<gloss>to look good (on)</gloss>
+<gloss>to be stylish</gloss> |
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A* 2019-09-09 09:17:46 Nicolas Maia
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EDR https://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=に決まっている |
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Prompted by seeing these two sentences in the wild: 昔のことなんてよく覚えてないに決まってんだろ。and 何言ってんの。そんなの冗談にきまってんじゃない。 |