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A 2023-05-29 01:57:35 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think that's a sound approach. |
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A* 2023-05-28 22:01:06 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think the gloss needs to be more than just a romanization. See the discussion on よいしょ. |
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@@ -19,2 +19,2 @@
-<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor; shouted when viewing fireworks</s_inf>
-<gloss>tamaya!</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya! (word shouted when viewing fireworks)</gloss> |
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A* 2023-05-27 18:49:07 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -19,2 +19,2 @@
-<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
-<gloss>tamaya! (shout used when viewing fireworks)</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor; shouted when viewing fireworks</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya!</gloss> |
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A* 2023-05-27 03:48:15 Opencooper
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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=106 |
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"Tamaya" isn't a word for the shout, but what is shouted itself. Moving etymological info to note. Though the x-ref is the kanji for the vendor, it's not listed at the target, instead pointing to "jeweler", making it more confusing than helpful.
If this is accepted, I'll make the same changes to 「かーぎや」. |
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+<reb>たまやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -15 +17,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1828540">玉屋・たまや・1</xref>
@@ -17 +19,2 @@
-<gloss>shouts used when viewing fireworks (from names of Edo-period fireworks vendors)</gloss>
+<s_inf>from 玉屋, the name of an Edo-period fireworks vendor</s_inf>
+<gloss>tamaya! (shout used when viewing fireworks)</gloss> |
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A 2019-09-15 11:42:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Probably better to split. |
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-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎや</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かぎやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -25 +16 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2563110">鍵屋・かぎや</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2841481">かーぎや</xref> |
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A* 2019-09-14 17:22:39 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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given that the たまや and the かぎやー are of different etymological origins, should we really be merging these? |
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A 2019-09-14 17:22:01 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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temp approve |
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A* 2019-09-14 01:30:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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https://www.hanabistore.com/tamaya.htm
たーまやー 5876
たまやー 1868
たーまや 6540
かーぎやー 534
かーぎや 730
かぎやー 723
たーまやーっ 102
かーぎやーっ 34
たまやーっ 57 |
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Reviving the original, as I think these are worth recording. If it goes in I don't think it should be merged with 玉屋 or 鍵屋 as was suggested:
(a) as the "yell" sense only applies to these readings, which in turn don't apply to the other sense(s) (breaking the 2/3 convention.)
(b) it would make a mess of restrictions.
I don't think the "...っ" versions are needed. |
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@@ -4,3 +4,6 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>玉屋</keb>
-</k_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たーまや</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たーまやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9,0 +13,9 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かーぎや</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>かぎやー</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -12 +24,3 @@
-<gloss>yell used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1828540">玉屋・たまや・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2563110">鍵屋・かぎや</xref>
+<gloss>shouts used when viewing fireworks (from names of Edo-period fireworks vendors)</gloss> |
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R 2019-09-13 03:20:05 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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if this is a real sense that needs to be added, it belongs in 1828540 玉屋【たまや】 |
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A* 2019-09-12 23:28:04 Nicolas Maia
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https://allabout.co.jp/gm/gc/220614/ |
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Reducing scope; 鍵屋 needs its own entry |
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@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>玉屋</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -5,4 +8 @@
-<reb>たーまやー</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>かーぎやー</reb>
+<reb>たまや</reb>
@@ -12 +12 @@
-<gloss>yells used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss>
+<gloss>yell used when viewing fireworks, orig. from names of Edo period fireworks vendors</gloss> |
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A* 2019-09-12 18:57:59
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https://www.hanabistore.com/tamaya.htm
http://www.tbs.co.jp/radio/kodomotel/etc/0030.html |