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A 2023-04-11 07:11:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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0 n-grams. |
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Not sure it adds much. |
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A* 2023-04-11 06:49:29 Nicolas Maia
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https://plant-origin.org/seitan/ セイタンの漢字表記は「生蛋」で表されることもあれば、「正蛋」と表されることもあるなどして表記が一貫していません。
https://flour.empacede.co.jp/attention/plantbasemeat/ セイタン（seitan）という名前も彼が付けたと言われており、日本語では正蛋、生蛋、製蛋など、いくつか説があります（蛋は蛋白質の「蛋」） |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>正蛋</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>生蛋</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>製蛋</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
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+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2020-07-14 21:12:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think the etymology note is useful. |
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A* 2020-07-14 17:43:19 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Given that "wheat gluten" refers to the actual food (and is used interchangeably with "seitan") I think this should be fine.
Do we need the etymology note? The 正しい->セイ connection won't be obvious to a lot of people. |
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-<gloss g_type="expl">meat substitute made from wheat gluten</gloss>
+<gloss>wheat gluten</gloss> |
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A* 2020-07-14 01:09:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)
JWiki's セイタン (食品) just redirects to the グルテンミート page |
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I know Johan dropped the "wheat gluten" gloss in favour of the expl, but I suspect it may be more accurate to say "wheat gluten (esp. meat substitute made from it)" or something like that. |
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A 2020-03-29 01:01:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-03-28 23:32:38 Guillem Palau-Salvà
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+<field>&food;</field> |
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A 2017-09-12 09:35:45 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">meat substitute made from gluten</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">meat substitute made from wheat gluten</gloss> |
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A 2017-09-12 09:32:54 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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jwiki(グルテンミート) |
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This word refers to a particular kind of meat substitute made from gluten, not to gluten or gluten based food products in general.
Moreover, the term "seitan" is mostly used in the West; in Japan this product is usually called グルテンミート.
There are other more traditional gluten based food products in Japan known as 麩. |
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+<xref type="see" seq="2833435">グルテンミート</xref>
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-<gloss>wheat gluten</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">meat substitute made from gluten</gloss> |
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A* 2017-09-12 09:02:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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リーダーズ+プラス for derivation. |
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+<s_inf>from 正しいタンパク源</s_inf> |
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A 2014-08-08 09:48:36 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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+<gloss>wheat gluten</gloss> |
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A* 2014-08-08 00:55:36 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/セイタン
and some other proper nouns but this meaning clearly dominates in google image hits |
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perhaps from 植物性タンパク. |