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A 2023-03-17 22:06:10 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I don't see a need for the x-ref. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1427750">弔問・ちょうもん</xref>
-<gloss>someone who has come to offer condolences</gloss>
+<gloss>person who has come to offer condolences</gloss> |
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A 2023-03-16 09:46:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5: a caller for condolence; a condolence caller; a person calling to express his sympathy; a condoler.
中辞典: a person calling to express his sympathy |
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Despite that waeijisho source, I don't think "mourner" is a good gloss. |
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-<gloss>mourner who has come to pay their respects</gloss>
+<gloss>someone who has come to offer condolences</gloss> |
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A* 2023-03-16 08:37:33 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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Removed "funeral service" and left the xref to provide additional details.
I think this has to be at the home of the deceased (or their family) (i.e. "calling on" ), and that a funeral home might not suffice. |
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-<gloss>mourner (at a funeral service)</gloss>
-<gloss>one who has come to pay their respects</gloss>
+<gloss>mourner who has come to pay their respects</gloss> |
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A* 2023-03-16 08:15:58 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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https://www.waeijisho.net/word.html?id=24690
a mourner
▼弔問客が～を始めた Mourners began
▽もう二人の弔問客が、彼女を教会から担ぎ出し始めた。Two
【用例】
▼弔問客として as a mourner
▽弔問客として参列する
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▼弔問客 は供花した Mourners laid flowers.
【用例】
▼多くの弔問客 many mourners |
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I also saw "condoler" somewhere. I feel reasonably confident that "condolence caller" would not be a very good gloss in modern English, even if "condolence call" might be understood.
https://www.waeijisho.net/word.html?id=64900
This is quite a bit more common in Japanese than English (than "condoler" or "condolence caller", as a term)
弔問 57073 73.4%
弔問客 13692 17.6%
弔問者 2442 3.1%
弔問に訪れ 4549 5.9% |
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-<gloss>condolence caller</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1427750">弔問・ちょうもん</xref>
+<gloss>mourner (at a funeral service)</gloss>
+<gloss>one who has come to pay their respects</gloss> |