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他 [ichi1] ；外
【ほか [ichi1] 】

[n]
▶ another place
▶ some other place
▶ somewhere else
▶ outside

[n,adj-no]
▶ another (person or thing)
▶ other
▶ different
▶ something else
▶ someone else
▶ the rest
▶ et al.

[n,adj-no] [uk]
《esp. 外》
▶ beyond (one's expectations, imagination, etc.)
▶ outside

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1825670 思いのほか 1. unexpectedly; surprisingly

[n]
《with neg. sentence; as ...ほかに...ない, ...するほかない, etc.》
▶ except
▶ but
▶ other than
▶ apart from

[n,adv]
《as ...のほか（に）, ...するほか（に）etc.》
▶ besides
▶ in addition to
▶ as well as
▶ on top of

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 1203280 他に【ほかに】 1. else; in addition; besides

History:

14.	A 2023-01-31 23:19:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	するほかに 12887 45.7% する他に 14530 51.5% する外に 802 2.8% ほかに質問 2208 17.8% 他に質問 9894 79.7% 外に質問 312 2.5%
	Comments:	Done. I think the freq tag can be dropped from 外.
	Diff:	@@ -6 +6 @@ -<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> +<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> @@ -10 +9,0 @@ -<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> @@ -15 +13,0 @@ -<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> @@ -46,6 +44,5 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc> -<s_inf>as ...ほかに...ない, ...するほかない, etc.</s_inf> -<gloss>(nothing) except</gloss> -<gloss>(nothing) but</gloss> -<gloss>(nothing) other than</gloss> -<gloss>(nothing to do) but</gloss> +<s_inf>with neg. sentence; as ...ほかに...ない, ...するほかない, etc.</s_inf> +<gloss>except</gloss> +<gloss>but</gloss> +<gloss>other than</gloss> +<gloss>apart from</gloss> @@ -57,3 +54,4 @@ -<gloss>besides ...</gloss> -<gloss>in addition to ...</gloss> -<gloss>on top of ...</gloss> +<gloss>besides</gloss> +<gloss>in addition to</gloss> +<gloss>as well as</gloss> +<gloss>on top of</gloss>
13.	A 2023-01-29 10:43:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK
12.	A* 2023-01-28 21:43:25 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	gg5, prog, meikyo
	Comments:	Added sense and glosses. I'll index some sentences once this is approved.
	Diff:	@@ -18,0 +19,7 @@ +<gloss>another place</gloss> +<gloss>some other place</gloss> +<gloss>somewhere else</gloss> +<gloss>outside</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -20 +27,5 @@ -<gloss>other (place, thing, person)</gloss> +<gloss>another (person or thing)</gloss> +<gloss>other</gloss> +<gloss>different</gloss> +<gloss>something else</gloss> +<gloss>someone else</gloss> @@ -26,0 +38 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1825670">思いのほか</xref> @@ -28,0 +41 @@ +<gloss>beyond (one's expectations, imagination, etc.)</gloss> @@ -30 +43,9 @@ -<gloss>beyond</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>as ...ほかに...ない, ...するほかない, etc.</s_inf> +<gloss>(nothing) except</gloss> +<gloss>(nothing) but</gloss> +<gloss>(nothing) other than</gloss> +<gloss>(nothing to do) but</gloss> @@ -35,15 +56,4 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="2215360">ほかない</xref> -<misc>&uk;</misc> -<s_inf>as 〜ほか〜ない, usu. after より or the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf> -<gloss>nothing except</gloss> -<gloss>nothing but</gloss> -<gloss>nothing apart from</gloss> -<gloss>nothing aside from</gloss> -<gloss>no choice (but to)</gloss> -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<pos>&adv;</pos> -<s_inf>often as ほかに</s_inf> -<gloss>besides...</gloss> -<gloss>in addition to...</gloss> +<s_inf>as ...のほか（に）, ...するほか（に）etc.</s_inf> +<gloss>besides ...</gloss> +<gloss>in addition to ...</gloss> +<gloss>on top of ...</gloss>
11.	A 2021-07-30 08:03:26 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
10.	A* 2021-07-30 02:05:47 Nicolas Maia
	Refs:	https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/糖尿病#脚注
	Comments:	Seems to be used in scientific citations, usually in kana.
	Diff:	@@ -21,0 +22 @@ +<gloss>et al.</gloss>
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9.	A 2021-03-31 04:32:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Bulk update n-adv to n,adv -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -44 +44,2 @@ -<pos>&n-adv;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<pos>&adv;</pos>
8.	A 2021-03-31 04:32:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Bulk update n-adv to n,adv -- via bulkupd.py --
	Diff:	@@ -32 +32,2 @@ -<pos>&n-adv;</pos> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<pos>&adv;</pos>
7.	A 2016-11-22 02:40:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6.	A* 2016-11-21 15:15:41 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	G n-grams: 他 110618856 ほか 36284250 その他 140230051 そのほか 4727846 他の 64801346 ほかの 9706967 他に 21385441 ほかに 4778426 他ない 50996 ほかない 117476 ほか仕方がない 457 他仕方がない 149 ----- Tanaka: 他(ほか): 332 他 and 120 ほか (and no 外) 他(た): 1 他
	Comments:	Seems that sense 1 and 4 are not [uk] and sense 3 is. No idea about sense 2.
	Diff:	@@ -20 +19,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -45 +43,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc>
5.	A 2016-10-23 10:27:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I think that helps a bit.
	Diff:	@@ -36 +36 @@ -<s_inf>as 〜ほかない, usu. after より or the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf> +<s_inf>as 〜ほか〜ない, usu. after より or the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf>
4.	A* 2016-10-23 08:03:14 luce
	Comments:	I think the note is a bit off. it's 〜ほか〜〜ない just like しか is 〜しか〜〜ない (i.e. there can be words between)
	Diff:	@@ -33,0 +34 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="2215360">ほかない</xref>
3.	A 2014-02-27 07:52:20 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Good edit.
2.	A* 2014-02-27 06:43:49 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	meikyo is the only one of my dictionaries that lists 他 first, adding in a note that: (3)は「外」を、(3)以外は「他」を使うことが多い。全般にかな書きも多い。 where their sense 3 means "beyond", "outside", etc. ==== edited current entry based on gg5, prog, meikyo, shinmeikai, wisdom wa-ei, etc.
	Comments:	i agree, though there is also the confusion with 他[た] (and 外[そと]). i have moved the news tags to 外[そと], which seems more likely than 他[ほか]. i'm not sure if we can move the [ichi1] tag from 外 to 他 here, but if not, then 他 should get [spec1].
	Diff:	@@ -5,0 +6 @@ +<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri> @@ -10,2 +10,0 @@ -<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri> -<ke_pri>nf02</ke_pri> @@ -16,2 +15 @@ -<re_pri>news1</re_pri> -<re_pri>nf02</re_pri> +<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> @@ -19,0 +18 @@ +<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -21,3 +20,2 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> -<pos>&n-adv;</pos> -<gloss>other (esp. places and things)</gloss> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<gloss>other (place, thing, person)</gloss> @@ -25,0 +24,25 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<pos>&adj-no;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>esp. 外</s_inf> +<gloss>outside</gloss> +<gloss>beyond</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n-adv;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>as 〜ほかない, usu. after より or the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf> +<gloss>nothing except</gloss> +<gloss>nothing but</gloss> +<gloss>nothing apart from</gloss> +<gloss>nothing aside from</gloss> +<gloss>no choice (but to)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n-adv;</pos> +<misc>&uk;</misc> +<s_inf>often as ほかに</s_inf> +<gloss>besides...</gloss> +<gloss>in addition to...</gloss> +</sense>
1.	A* 2014-02-27 05:00:10 Chris Vasselli <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1118381661
	Comments:	It looks like 外 is technically the primary kanji for ほか, but basically no one uses it. I've never seen it used as ほか, and according to the forum post I linked, newspapers generally write the word in hiragana to get around the issue. On the other hand, I see 他 pronounced as ほか all the time.
	Diff:	@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>他</keb> +</k_ele> @@ -9,3 +11,0 @@ -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>他</keb>

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