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[v5s,vt]
▶ to create (a sensation) ▶ to cause (a commotion) ▶ to give rise to (controversy) |
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[v5s,vt]
▶ to raise (a cloud of dust) ▶ to kick up (dust) |
3. | A 2023-01-26 05:34:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
Comments: | I'd be comfortable with using sK on okurigana variants below 3% even if they are in kokugos. |
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2. | A* 2023-01-26 00:10:16 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | prog, wisdom, daij, meikyo |
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Comments: | That is the policy but we haven't always been sticking to it, especially when the n-gram counts are very low. I note that meikyo and sankoku ignore the okurigana variants. We might want to do the same (i.e. by making them sK) unless they're above a certain threshold in the n-grams (e.g. 3%). I don't see much value in having 巻き起す/巻起こす/巻起す/捲き起す visible. Added sense (not in the JEs). |
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Diff: | @@ -10,9 +9,0 @@ -<keb>巻き起す</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>巻起こす</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>巻起す</keb> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> @@ -22,0 +14,12 @@ +<keb>巻き起す</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>巻起こす</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>巻起す</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> @@ -24 +27 @@ -<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> @@ -38,0 +42 @@ +<gloss>to cause (a commotion)</gloss> @@ -39,0 +44,6 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&v5s;</pos> +<pos>&vt;</pos> +<gloss>to raise (a cloud of dust)</gloss> +<gloss>to kick up (dust)</gloss> |
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1. | A* 2023-01-25 04:48:53 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...> | |
Refs: | [vt]: meikyo, shinmeikai, etc. Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮ │ 巻き起こす │ 234,000 │ 97.3% │ │ 巻き起す │ 761 │ 0.3% │ - (daijs) │ 巻起こす │ 496 │ 0.2% │ - adding (daijr/s) │ 巻起す │ 32 │ 0.0% │ - adding (daijs, shinmeikai, obunsha) │ 捲き起こす │ 3,034 │ 1.3% │ - adding as [rK] (daijs, meikyo) │ 捲き起す │ 87 │ 0.0% │ - adding as [rK] (daijs) │ まき起こす │ 1,661 │ 0.7% │ - adding as [sK] │ まき起す │ 159 │ 0.1% │ │ 巻きおこそ │ 44 │ 0.0% │ │ 捲起す │ 28 │ 0.0% │ │ 捲起こす │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 捲きおこそ │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 捲おこそ │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 巻おこそ │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ まきおこそ │ 256 │ 0.1% │ ╰─ーーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯ |
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Comments: | I think we could hide or drop a few of these, but our usual policy (as I understand it) is to include the okurigana forms from daijisen even if they're rare. |
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Diff: | @@ -11,0 +12,18 @@ +<k_ele> +<keb>巻起こす</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>巻起す</keb> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>捲き起こす</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>捲き起す</keb> +<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> +<k_ele> +<keb>まき起こす</keb> +<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> +</k_ele> @@ -18,0 +37 @@ +<pos>&vt;</pos> |