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とんでもありません
1. [exp] [pol]
《sometimes considered incorrect; とんでもない(こと)です is preferable》
▶ (it was) no bother at all
▶ not at all
▶ it was nothing
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 1008790 【とんでもない】 3. (it was) no bother at all; not at all; don't mention it



History:
13. A 2023-01-12 23:04:14  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Slitting.
  Diff:
@@ -6,3 +5,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>とんでもございません</reb>
@@ -14,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&pol;</misc>
12. A 2021-10-08 10:50:11  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Interesting.
11. A* 2021-09-30 16:28:45  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
https://twitter.com/IIMA_Hiroaki/status/1387213173472653314
https://www.bunka.go.jp/seisaku/bunkashingikai/kokugo/hokoku/pdf/keigo_tosin.pdf
"例えば、あの人のしていることはとんでもないことだ、と表現したい場合には 「あの方のなさっていることはとんでもございませんね 」などとは言えないが、「とんでもないことでございますね 」 などは普通に用いることができる。"
  Comments:
Indeed. I was reading a tweet written by a lexicographer about this the other day. He cites a keigo guide produced by the Council for Cultural Affairs in 2007. I've linked it above (see page 47). The guide also notes that it's fine to use とんでもございません/とんでもありません.
  Diff:
@@ -13 +13 @@
-<s_inf>considered incorrect; とんでもない(こと)です is preferable</s_inf>
+<s_inf>sometimes considered incorrect; とんでもない(こと)です is preferable</s_inf>
@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<gloss>it was nothing</gloss>
10. A* 2021-09-30 03:13:49  Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I think とんでもありません/とんでもございません does not have all the same meanings as とんでもない does, I think it's just 
バイト敬語 for the "it was no bother at all sense." (prev sense 3)
I also think とんでもありません and とんでもございません should be separate entries
  Diff:
@@ -12 +12 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1008790">とんでもない・1</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1008790">とんでもない・3</xref>
@@ -14,22 +14,2 @@
-<gloss>unthinkable</gloss>
-<gloss>unexpected</gloss>
-<gloss>outrageous</gloss>
-<gloss>offensive</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1008790">とんでもない・2</xref>
-<misc>&col;</misc>
-<gloss>absolutely not!</gloss>
-<gloss>not at all!</gloss>
-<gloss>far from it!</gloss>
-<gloss>impossible!</gloss>
-<gloss>preposterous!</gloss>
-<gloss>what a thing to say!</gloss>
-<gloss>no way!</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="1008790">とんでもない・3</xref>
-<gloss>don't mention it</gloss>
-<gloss>you're welcome</gloss>
+<gloss>(it was) no bother at all</gloss>
+<gloss>not at all</gloss>
9. A 2019-12-29 00:42:57  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Diff:
@@ -13 +13 @@
-<s_inf>considered incorrect; とんで もない(こと)です is preferable</s_inf>
+<s_inf>considered incorrect; とんでもない(こと)です is preferable</s_inf>
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