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A 2023-01-09 03:49:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I thought they didn't match the search key. For images Google segments the key and shows images containing the parts. |
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A* 2023-01-09 02:14:08 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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An emergency human transport/stretcher-like image that comes up on google 搬送帯
ベルカ介護用担架KB160
https://www.ganpon.com/SHOP/1675.html
The page actually includes a definition for 搬送, (maybe to add google keywords, search ranking(spam)?), it merely gives 搬送帯 (and 搬送波) as example terms that include 搬送。
搬送を使った言葉として搬送帯や搬送波があります。
▼搬送とは
搬送とは、交通手段を用いて人や物を運んで送ることをいいます。
目的地となる病院に向かって病者・負傷者を運ぶ時にも使われます。
表現方法としては、搬送する・救急搬送・搬送先の病院などが一般的な言い回しになります。
搬送を使った言葉として搬送帯や搬送波があります。
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google image result for "搬送帯" with a device for carrying a person on your back. 搬送帯 does not appear, though the terms おんぶ帯 and 安全搬送 do.
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/be-kan/672411/ |
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Thank you for the reviews, as always. For what it's worth, I also saw the sporadic images of "people-carrying" apparatuses. I think these are spurious. If one has the time to follow the links (which I certainly don't expect of others here), you'll find the term is either not present (google creative license in image searching, I guess) or is included in some roundabout way(like including a full definition of 搬送!). |
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A 2023-01-08 20:06:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I guess that works. Google images are mostly industrial conveyors but there are a few of harnesses for carrying people. |
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A* 2023-01-08 11:02:12 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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ベルトコンベヤー・チェーンコンベヤーなどがある。搬送帯。
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/コンベヤー/ |
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On further reflection, I was going to post this as an alternative to deletion, but you replied so quickly (thank you).
Would you be amenable to replacing "conveyor belt" with something more generic. I would note that this is completely consistent with the original reference, and is consistent with the maff usage (a rolling bar conveyor), and "conveyor belt" would be an easy over-specification to make for a J-E dictionary like GG5. If all of your J-J references point to コンベアー, maybe this is the safer translation? |
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-<gloss>conveyor belt</gloss>
+<gloss>industrial conveyor (belt, chain, etc.)</gloss> |
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A 2023-01-08 10:47:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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搬送帯 146
コンベヤー 12843
コンベア 170195
コンベヤ 22875
GG5: 搬送帯 a conveyor belt.
Koj, Daijisen, Nikkoku - all point to コンベヤー. |
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We'd usually handle an uncommon term which is in several references this way. |
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+<xref type="see" seq="1053820">コンベヤー</xref>
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D* 2023-01-08 09:24:31 Brian Krznarich <...address hidden...>
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maff article on farm management, section on egg packing and conveyance. Uses the construction （バーコンベヤーと呼ばれている搬送帯)
https://www.maff.go.jp/j/syouan/douei/tori/pdf/060928_hpai_kyumei_3.pdf
農場側の鶏卵の出荷に関するリスクを考えると、鶏舎からの集卵の方法は、農場によって様々な方法があるが、大別すると、①コンベヤー集卵（バーコンベヤーと呼ばれている搬送帯で鶏舎から集卵室等に自動で鶏卵を集める方法）、
This is a バーコンベヤー (bar conveyor). notably, no belts:
https://www.nakamatic.co.jp/chicken/2018/11/post-6.html
Wikipedia for ベルトコンベア, *uses* 搬送 in the description, but nowhere offers 搬送帯 as a synonym
カーブした部分でもテーパローラやカーフベルトを用いて製品を搬送可能である。
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ベルトコンベア
はんそう‐たい【搬送帯】 -> コンベヤー
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/搬送帯/#jn-181523
コンベヤー. Note, there *is* a reverse reference to 搬送帯, strengthening the idea that this dictionary believes a 搬送帯 could be any kind of mechanical conveyance mechanism.
《「コンベヤ」「コンベアー」とも》物を連続的に一定の距離だけ運搬する自動装置。ベルトコンベヤー・チェーンコンベヤーなどがある。搬送帯。
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/コンベヤー/#jn-84082
ベルト‐コンベヤー【belt conveyor】 の解説 (doesn't include 搬送帯 either, for that matter).
ベルト車にベルトを輪状に掛けて回転させ、その上に物品をのせて連続的に運搬する装置。土砂・石炭の運搬、組立工場の部品移動に用いる。ベルトコンベアー。
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/ベルトコンベヤー/#jn-199932
"Carrier Band" usage of 搬送帯 in isolation
画像処理システム、画像処理方法及び画像処理プログラム
撮像対象物を上面に搭載して搬送する網目状の搬送帯と、前記搬送帯の上方に配置され、前記撮像対象物が含まれる撮像範囲全体を様々な方向のベクトル...
https://plidb.inpit.go.jp/db/new/lr201113.html
Google translate:
Image processing system, image processing method and image processing program
A mesh-like *****carrier band***** for carrying an object to be imaged mounted on its upper surface, and a vector in various directions that is arranged above the carrier band and covers the entire imaging range including the object to be imaged. |
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Studying 搬.
I was originally going to offer a "see:ベルトコンベア" as a cross reference, given that ベルトコンベア is super common, and this entry is super-rare. But looking into it further, I don't see much evidence that "搬送帯", if it is even common enough to be considered a word, would translate to "conveyor belt" in the first place. Like 干鰯, convey + belt = "conveyor belt" seems like a no-brainer, but if you look at the reference that justified this entry in the first place, the only definition given is a forward reference to "コンベヤー", and the definition of that doesn't inherently use a belt at all. Yes, ベルトコンベヤー is one option example in the definition of コンベヤー, but so is チェーンコンベヤ, and why then does the definition of 搬送帯 not link to that entry?
For n-grams, I'll note that there appears to be an (somewhat uncommon) collocation 搬送帯域 used in electronics, which decomposes as 搬送 + 帯域. Google translate gives "carrier band" for this. I even have a reference without 域 (first reference) that appears to be 搬送帯="carrier band" based on surrounding context (and google translate).
In a google search for "搬送帯", the first results are dictionary entries, and a few overly-dense patent-application-looking entries (including one that is absolutely littered with 搬送帯) and technical documents (such as the reference from maff).
Google image search seems to find mainly one device from one specific company that is anything close to a "conveyor belt". (EC-23C)
While I don't think I can deny that at least a couple of Japanese people have used 搬送帯 as a formulation of "a device for transporting objects by means of a belt", it looks like "conveyor belt" was imported into Japanese as gairaigo, and has never been anything else. The likelihood that someone will encounter "搬送帯" in the wild and need this dictionary to interpret it seems very low. On balance I think this entry just does more harm than good by suggesting that this could even be considered as a "native" translation of "conveyor belt", and I also don't think it's common (or well-defined) enough to try and flesh out a better definition, so I'm suggesting it be dropped. |
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A 2020-11-17 23:57:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>conveyer belt</gloss>
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A 2020-11-13 03:16:54 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj, GG5 |
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A* 2020-11-13 02:55:48 Jim Rose <...address hidden...>
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Henshall entry for 搬 (1716) example word (pg. 547)
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/搬送帯/#jn-181523 |