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A 2022-11-09 22:20:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I agree.
While I'm always reluctant to remove forms that have been there for years, I have to agree that these 3 kanji are real outliers for かね. We could make them [sK] to reduce the display clutter, but would anyone seriously try and find this entry using 銀 or 銅. It would be misleading. |
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@@ -7,12 +6,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>鉄</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>銀</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>銅</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26 +13,0 @@
-<re_restr>金</re_restr>
@@ -30 +16,0 @@
-<stagk>金</stagk> |
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A* 2022-11-09 16:03:10 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Only nikk has 鉄, 銀 and 銅 for かね. I don't think they're needed. |
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A 2022-11-08 23:31:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Hmm. I guess so although some could be sK instead. |
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A* 2022-11-08 22:36:52
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@@ -10 +10 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14 +14 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18 +18 @@
-<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -29,0 +30 @@
+<stagk>金</stagk> |
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A 2012-09-08 07:29:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. Much cleaner. |
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A* 2012-09-08 04:24:03 Marcus
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nikk |
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ok, I'll make a separate entry for カネ. |
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-<reb>カネ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
+<reb>かな</reb>
+<re_restr>金</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
@@ -31,1 +32,0 @@
-<s_inf>oft. refers to dirty money when written in katakana</s_inf> |
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A* 2012-09-07 19:48:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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(a) I like where it's got to now with the "oK" tags.
(b) I don't like the note. Better to drop it and move the カネ into its own entry with a sense like "loot; dirty money; hard tack". |
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A* 2012-09-07 05:21:28 Marcus
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I can only see the first definition in nikk, which is
metals/mineral ore, so it was just a guess, but I think it's a
fair guess as it just seems unlikely the other characters
would be used to mean money. nikk for example only lists 御金
for おかね. I mean if neither of us can see the 2nd definition,
either way is a guess. |
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A* 2012-09-07 04:38:11 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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AFAICT, nikkoku does not support the sense restriction, and if they're in there, they're clearly not iK. i'm also unconvinced of the need for the note |
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@@ -10,1 +10,1 @@
-<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18,1 +18,1 @@
-<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&oK;</ke_inf>
@@ -29,2 +29,0 @@
-<stagk>金</stagk>
-<stagr>カネ</stagr> |
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A* 2012-09-07 02:20:08 Marcus
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(the extra kanji are from nikk) |
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A* 2012-09-07 00:34:55 Marcus
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"政治とカネ” 1,010,000 results
"政治と金" 461,000 results
”記事は「拉致はカネで」の小見出しで始まっている。２月上旬に開かれた民主党支
持者の会合での小沢発言ということだが、金をカネとカタカナで書いたところがみそであ
る。これで読者は小沢の不動産スキャンダルをおもいだす仕掛けになっている。"
http://atsumikei.blog72.fc2.com/category26-1.html
"政治とカネ、という場合、平仮名表記は通常しないのでは
ないでしょうか。少なくとも、「黒いつながり」のようなことを
述べる表現としては、もっぱらカタカナが使われ、平仮名はないと
考えられますので、カタカナ表記に限って回答します。
一般的な「金」という表記ではなく、カタカナの「カネ」が
使われるのは、その金銭につきまとう何らかの
「悪いイメージ」を強調するときです。
漢字で書いてももちろんかまわないのですが、
「ふつうの金ではなく、問題がある金だ」"
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q144
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@@ -8,0 +8,12 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>鉄</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>銀</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>銅</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ik;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -12,0 +24,4 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カネ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+</r_ele>
@@ -13,0 +29,2 @@
+<stagk>金</stagk>
+<stagr>カネ</stagr>
@@ -15,0 +33,1 @@
+<s_inf>oft. refers to dirty money when written in katakana</s_inf> |
| 1. |
A 2010-09-20 06:47:29 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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+<xref type="see" seq="1001820">お金</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1001820">お金</xref> |