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A 2022-09-19 01:05:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-09-18 23:19:27 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I don't like "truthy". It's not in any of the major dictionaries (with this meaning). |
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-<gloss>credible (e.g. of a lie)</gloss>
+<gloss>credible (e.g. lie)</gloss>
@@ -24 +24 @@
-<gloss>truthy</gloss>
+<gloss>seemingly truthful</gloss> |
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A 2022-09-17 21:06:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-09-17 16:26:07 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 実しやか │ 4,469 │ 9.9% │
│ 真しやか │ 965 │ 2.1% │ 🡠 rK (daijr/s, meikyo)
│ 誠しやか │ 544 │ 1.2% │ 🡠 rK (shinmeikai, GG5)
│ まことしやか │ 39,144 │ 86.8% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
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+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2019-11-18 05:33:52 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>specious (e.g. of an argument)</gloss>
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+<gloss>specious</gloss> |
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A 2019-11-17 17:30:41 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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some of those glosses seem fine to me |
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-<gloss>plausible but untrue</gloss>
-<gloss>looking very like the truth</gloss>
+<gloss>plausible (but untrue)</gloss>
+<gloss>specious (e.g. of an argument)</gloss>
+<gloss>credible (e.g. of a lie)</gloss> |
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A* 2019-11-17 00:09:45
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https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/truthy |
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-<gloss>plausible (e.g. of a rumour)</gloss>
-<gloss>believable (e.g. of a story)</gloss>
-<gloss>specious (e.g. of an argument)</gloss>
-<gloss>credible (e.g. of a lie)</gloss>
+<gloss>plausible but untrue</gloss>
@@ -23,0 +21 @@
+<gloss>truthy</gloss> |
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A 2010-08-12 23:45:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Let's leave it now. |
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A* 2010-08-11 23:50:56 Paul Blay <...address hidden...>
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I see your point about the order - that was more or less accidental. I just put them in order of thinking of a suitable parenthetical example. |
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-<gloss>credible (e.g. of a rumour)</gloss>
+<gloss>plausible (e.g. of a rumour)</gloss>
@@ -21,1 +21,0 @@
-<gloss>plausible</gloss>
@@ -23,1 +22,2 @@
-<gloss>looking like the truth</gloss>
+<gloss>credible (e.g. of a lie)</gloss>
+<gloss>looking very like the truth</gloss> |
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A* 2010-08-11 17:33:52 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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my change was mainly to move "credible" to the bottom, because that can
suggest that something is actually supported by evidence (see below). just like
"specious" suggests that something is actually wrong. as you note in your
comment, "plausible" is the best translation, but you've placed it as the third
gloss for some reason. "very", etc. were translations of いかにも, which all
kokugos include in their definition (いかにも本当らしく言うさま, etc.) but I can
take them or leave them
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From the Oxford American Writers' Thesaurus:
Believable is the most general of these terms, used to describe anything we
accept as true, even in the absence of absolute proof (: a believable story
about why she was late).
Credible also means worthy of belief or confidence and is often used
interchangeably with believable, but it goes one step further: a credible
excuse is one that is supported by known facts.
Creditable, often confused with credible, at one time meant worthy of belief
but nowadays is used to mean respectable or decent, deserving of honor,
reputation, or esteem ( | leading a creditable life).
Something that is convincing is believable because it overcomes doubts or
opposition ( | a convincing performance), while something that is plausible
may appear to be convincing or believable on the surface, but may not be so
upon closer examination.
Valid means legally sound, just, or authoritative; a valid criticism seldom
provokes opposition.
Cogent, on the other hand, means having the power to convince; a cogent
argument is believable because of its clear, forceful, or incisive presentation.
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A* 2010-08-11 12:55:22 Scott
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>誠しやか</keb>
@@ -20,0 +23,1 @@
+<gloss>looking like the truth</gloss> |
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A* 2010-08-11 11:18:27 Paul Blay <...address hidden...>
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新和英大辞典
新和英中辞典 |
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I'm a bit dubious about Rene's changes. A large portion of the nuance seems to be that the actual truthfulness is quite doubtful, but it sounds plausible. I also don't see where the 'very, highly and truly' came from. |
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-<gloss>very believable</gloss>
-<gloss>highly plausible</gloss>
-<gloss>truly credible</gloss>
+<gloss>credible (e.g. of a rumour)</gloss>
+<gloss>believable (e.g. of a story)</gloss>
+<gloss>plausible</gloss>
+<gloss>specious (e.g. of an argument)</gloss> |
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A* 2010-08-11 07:00:42 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>実しやか</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -12,2 +15,4 @@
-<gloss>credible</gloss>
-<gloss>truly credible (e.g. lie)</gloss>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>very believable</gloss>
+<gloss>highly plausible</gloss>
+<gloss>truly credible</gloss> |
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A* 2010-08-10 22:23:36 Scott
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