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A 2022-07-05 21:21:41 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-07-05 18:36:32 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Refs are conflicted about transitivity. I guess it can be both.
[vi]: shinmeikai, meikyo
[vt]: oukoku
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
| 丸儲け | 50,036 | 75.9% |
| 丸もうけ | 4,134 | 6.3% |
| まる儲け | 3,242 | 4.9% |
| まるもうけ | 8,486 | 12.9% |
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
| 丸儲けし | 499 |
| を丸儲けし | 97 |
| 丸儲けする | 351 |
| を丸儲けする | 20 | |
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+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos> |
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A 2018-03-28 04:52:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think they're two different things, but let's close it. |
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A* 2018-03-24 07:11:40 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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My bad, I wasn't aware that "clear profit" meant "a profit
after all expenses have been paid", I just assumed it meant
"obvious profit". Maybe they don't need to be split into
two senses? |
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-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&vs;</pos> |
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A* 2018-03-17 00:35:30 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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まる儲け 3242 (in GG5 example)
GG5: a clear 「gain [profit]. ～する make [realize, get] a clear 「gain [profit]《of 100,000 yen》.
中辞典: 《make》 a clear profit ¶彼は 30 万円丸もうけした. He made a clean profit of 300,000 yen.
ルミナス: (まるまるの利益) clear profit [C]; (元手や費用なしで得るもうけ) profit 「gained [made] without funds and charges
Daijr: 元手がかからず、収入が全部もうけであること。 |
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From the JEs I'd say it now commonly means making a good profit, although originally it meant there was no initial investment. |
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+<k_ele>
+<keb>まる儲け</keb>
+</k_ele>
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-<gloss>great profit (which doesn't require any investment)</gloss>
+<gloss>clear profit</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<gloss>great profit (without any investment)</gloss> |
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A* 2018-03-16 23:25:41 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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daijs |
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I don't like "clear profit" |
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-<gloss>clear gain</gloss>
-<gloss>clear profit</gloss>
+<gloss>great profit (which doesn't require any investment)</gloss> |
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A 2018-03-16 10:44:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, etc. N-grams:
丸儲け 50036
丸もうけ 4134
まるもうけ 8486 |
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+<gloss>clear profit</gloss> |
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A* 2018-03-15 18:48:27 Nikolai Vavilov <...address hidden...>
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Common alternative spelling. |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>丸もうけ</keb> |