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jmdict 2228260 Active (id: 2187344)
穫れる
とれる
1. [v1,vi]
▶ to be harvested
▶ to be picked
2. [v1,vt,vi]
《potential form of 穫る》
▶ to be able to harvest
▶ to be able to pick
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2269180 穫る 1. to harvest (a crop)

Conjugations


History:
6. A 2022-05-21 08:05:16  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
5. A* 2022-05-20 11:19:50  Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
獲れる isn't used for harvesting. I'll draft a new entry for it.
  Diff:
@@ -4,3 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>獲れる</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -15 +12 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2854609">獲る・とる・1</xref>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
@@ -17,2 +14 @@
-<gloss>to be reaped</gloss>
-<gloss>to be yielded</gloss>
+<gloss>to be picked</gloss>
@@ -21,0 +18,4 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<pos>&vi;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2269180">穫る</xref>
+<s_inf>potential form of 穫る</s_inf>
@@ -23,2 +23 @@
-<gloss>to be able to reap</gloss>
-<gloss>to be able to yield</gloss>
+<gloss>to be able to pick</gloss>
4. A 2022-05-19 02:03:31  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Replacing automatically deleted xref.
  Diff:
@@ -14,0 +15 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2854609">獲る・とる</xref>
3. A 2013-02-06 10:39:12  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Those とれる redirections are (deliberately) only to verbs with the reading of とる. The verbs which are natively read とれる are not included, as their entries are displayed anyway.
Those "しなかった (etc.) See: 為る" pseudo-entries are there purely to help beginners decode inflections which may otherwise be a bit mystifying. They are not intended to include plain dictionary forms of verbs.
I am afraid you've lost me with "Empty vessels", etc. You'll need to raise those topics under the relevent entries.
2. A* 2013-02-05 19:32:36  Francis
  Refs:
See below.
  Comments:
No change to the above. The link for "とれる" redirects to a range of entries, but it does not redirect to the above. In addition, in order to save another submission, I can perhaps state here that it does not redirect to "録れる 【とれる】 (v1) (1) to be recorded (sound, etc.); (2) to be able to record " either.

What I am suggesting is that the redirection perhaps should include the additions as follows:-

とれる (etc.) See: 採る 撮る 執る 取る 捕る 獲れる 穫れる 録れる

The entry for "取れる" does contain a redirection so 2 of the kanji are clearly compatible in that respect, see:-

取れる 【とれる】 (v1,vi,vt) (1) to come off; to be removed; (2) (of pain, a fever, etc.) to disappear; (3) (See 獲れる・1, 捕れる .1)

P.S.

I take your point about footpaths and the English meanings. That is one of the problems of living in England and thinking that English is "English".

However, I'm not quite so convinced about the "Empty vessels" and the mouse and the rat. Furthermore, the "よくしゃべる者はかえって実行しない" does not seem to fit. This may mean - if I have got it right - that a person who talks well, on the contrary will not perform [carry something out]. Which is not quite the cat's meow alerts the mouse to danger and therefore allows the escape; nor is it quite the empty vessel. Anyway, it is obviously quite difficult to get matches that suit everyone's thinking and in a dictionary it is the majority view that counts.
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