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R 2022-05-10 23:40:57 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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This was later forked, so I'll pull this one. |
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A* 2022-05-10 04:49:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, etc. |
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Commonly called this too. |
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+<gloss>Ezo</gloss> |
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A 2021-12-25 21:05:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-12-22 12:14:29 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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+<misc>&hist;</misc>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">historical term for non-Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">non-Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss>
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-<gloss>Yezo (northern part of Meiji-era Japan, esp. Hokkaido, but also Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands)</gloss>
+<misc>&hist;</misc>
+<gloss>Yezo</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">Hokkaido, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands</gloss> |
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A 2019-04-06 05:32:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">historical term for non- Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">historical term for non-Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss> |
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A* 2019-04-05 06:38:23 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>historical term for non-Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss>
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+<gloss g_type="expl">historical term for non- Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss> |
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A 2016-12-01 01:52:10 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-11-18 22:55:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Since "Emishi" is in another entry, it should be here too.
Looking back over the discussion 3 years ago, I think the "ok" can probably go. |
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-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
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+<gloss>Emishi</gloss> |
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A 2013-09-02 11:58:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK. |
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A* 2013-09-01 07:01:52 Marcus Richert
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the Japanese wikipedia article on Ezo/emishi lists "Emishi"
as the first reading.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/蝦夷
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北海道考古学からみた蝦夷 (エミシ)
https://encrypted.google.com/url?
sa=t&rct=j&q=site%3Aac.jp+%E3%82%A8%E3%83%9F%E3%82%B7&source
=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsapporo-
u.repo.nii.ac.jp%2F%3Faction%3Drepository_uri%26item_id%3D43
99%26file_id%3D18%26file_no%3D1&ei=mOMiUofxHYr1iQfi34CYDg&us
g=AFQjCNEjb49q8fYbv6SMEQ-
QTF1Kh2tJ2Q&sig2=psHiq6mHsppookmS_oR5pw
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「エミシ」社会の成立とアイヌ民族へと連なるエトノスとの関連についての予察
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110001042095 「エ%E
3%83%9F%E3%82%B7%E3%80%8D%E7%A4%BE%E4%BC%9A%E3%81%AE%E6%88%9
0%E7%AB%8B%E3%81%A8%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%8C%E6%B0%91%E6%9
7%8F%E3%81%B8%E3%81%A8%E9%80%A3%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B%E3%82%A8%E
3%83%88%E3%83%8E%E3%82%B9%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E9%96%A2%E9%80%A
3%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6%E3%81%AE%E4%BA%88%E5%A
F%9F
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seems like the word "えみし" is used in modern scholarship to
discuss these people(s) so I would argue it's not [ok]
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I think the problem with the ainu etymology is that it's only
an unattested theory. |
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A* 2013-09-01 06:03:44 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daijs, daijr all call えみし［蝦夷］
「えぞ（蝦夷）①」の古名
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shinmeikai:
えぞ【〈蝦夷〉】
〔アイヌ語 enchiw（=人）の変化という〕
daijr:
えぞ［蝦夷］
〔アイヌ語のエンジュ・エンチウ（人，の意）からという〕 |
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-pretty sure the ok is warranted.
-i don't necessarily disagree with removing the etymology though |
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+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A* 2013-09-01 05:12:33 Marcus Richert
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I think there's very little evidence for this being originally
from Ainu. |
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-<lsource xml:lang="ain">enciw,enju</lsource> |
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A* 2013-09-01 05:10:54 Marcus Richert
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daijs (ezo entry)
古代、北陸・関東北部から北海道にかけて居住した人々。大和政権から異民族視され、
大化の改新後は朝廷の征討によってしだいに北方に追われ、しばしば抵抗した。えみし
there's some mention in "Ruins of Identity: Ethnogenesis in
the Japanese Islands" (on google books) as well how some that
were called Emishi might actually have been Japanese. |
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-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
@@ -21,1 +20,1 @@
-<gloss>peoples formerly of northern Japan with distinct language and culture (i.e. the Ainu)</gloss>
+<gloss>historical term for non-Yamato peoples in northern Japan</gloss> |
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A 2012-09-02 23:00:33 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2012-09-02 15:58:02 Nils Roland Barth <...address hidden...>
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daijr en:WP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people |
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[lsrc=ain] |
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+<lsource xml:lang="ain">enciw,enju</lsource> |