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A 2022-04-30 21:58:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2022-04-30 16:17:32 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
24,764 3.2% 怠い
95 0.0% 懈い
648,354 82.5% だるい
76,968 9.8% ダルい
35,743 4.5% たるい |
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@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2020-04-05 21:44:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-04-05 07:19:06 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -38 +38 @@
-<gloss>pain in the ass</gloss>
+<gloss>pain-in-the-ass</gloss> |
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A 2019-07-24 22:27:26 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -12,0 +13 @@
+<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
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+<gloss>pain in the ass</gloss> |
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A 2018-01-11 21:36:43 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
@@ -16,0 +16 @@
+<re_nokanji/> |
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A* 2018-01-11 16:04:10 Timofei Shatrov <...address hidden...>
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@@ -13,0 +14,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ダルい</reb> |
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A 2013-09-02 11:53:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, I have a problem with だりぃ being here, as it's clearly not the same POS. It's common enough to be recorded. I've proposed an entry for it. |
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@@ -18,5 +18,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>だりぃ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
-<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf> |
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A* 2013-09-01 23:59:39 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I was thinking it might help in text glossing since it's a
fairly common surface form, but I wouldn't mind having it
taken out |
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A* 2013-09-01 06:12:46 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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i don't think だりぃ should be in here |
5. |
A* 2013-09-01 03:06:54 Marcus Richert
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"【1】「だるい」は、体の状態のみにいうが、「けだるい」「かったるい」は気分につ
いて用いられることもある。" / 類語例解辞典
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/thsrs/1385/m0u/ |
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A* 2013-09-01 03:05:00 Marcus Richert
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たるい is in daijs, daijr ("〔近世「たるい」とも〕")
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"ダルい(-)とは、面倒くさくて……あれなことを言うんよ。以後、変換がダルいのでだ
るいと表記する。 (...) だるいの使い方
説明するのがだるい。
みたいに使うんだよ。わかった?"
http://ja.uncyclopedia.info/wiki/ダルい
"すげー暇だしどっか行きてぇ。けど雨だしな、外出んのだりぃ。"
https://twitter.com/_965tty/status/373997902281994240
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"はぁ~講習会で有楽町とかマジだりぃ。終わったらいつもの秋葉原でも行くかな"
https://twitter.com/M_WisteriaField/status/37399706982588006
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"奈良行くのだりぃwww"
https://twitter.com/un1080/status/373996199998525440
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"勉強だりぃーけど明日テストォォォォw"
https://twitter.com/kotone06171/status/373996946895015937
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"本棚つくるのだりぃww"
https://twitter.com/KPPFM/status/373995707528527874
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"試合だるぴ。"
https://twitter.com/da_toyo43/status/373998052157046784
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"会長警報とかなんだよっ!!!だるっ。とっとと東京帰れっっ!!!バイトだるいなぁ...。
こーゆーのあるからめんどいんだよね(´・ω・`)"
https://twitter.com/di_bambino/status/373998020993363968
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"また履歴書書くのかよ
学校だるーだる"
https://twitter.com/WagaWagayu/status/373999461858410496
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"バイトだるーいwww
もーめんどくさーいwww"
https://twitter.com/ar23_52kkp/status/373999438135447552 |
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daijs definition of だるい: "1 疲れや病気などで、からだを動かすのがお
っくうである。かったるい。「高熱で全身が―・い」"
prog ex: "足がだるい"
eij ex: "だるい気分" "最近体がだるいんです" "全身がだるい" etc.
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the correct usage of the word is usually to use the body, a
body part or 気分 as the subject to be modified. to say
school, homework, part-time work etc. is だるい seems to
clearly fall outside the standard usage of the word. same
for saying that doing something is だるい (e.g. "説明するのがだる
い" ""奈良行くのだりぃ" )
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the twitter examples are all very "fresh" - all were posted
in the past hour. |
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@@ -15,0 +15,9 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>たるい</reb>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>だりぃ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/>
+<re_inf>&ik;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -24,0 +33,7 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-i;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<misc>&sl;</misc>
+<gloss>bothersome</gloss>
+<gloss>tiresome</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A 2013-06-09 01:31:31 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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”ちょっとめんどくさい時にすぐダルいって使うやついるけど
あれ相当感じ悪くみえるわ。悪気はないんだろうけどな”
"ウザイとかダルイとか似たようなもんだろ
なんで30代が理解できないんだよ"
http://www.logsoku.com/r/poverty/1327299208/ |
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I think this kind of usage is pretty recent (and probably
not just restricted to Kansai). We were talking to a middle-
aged policeman who arrived at the scene and when my friend
mentioned in passing how the kids were saying "だるい", the
policeman scoffed.
I can't find too much online either but I guess it's fine
just to record this instance of this usage in the comments
for now. |
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A* 2013-06-08 20:13:06 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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koj, daij |
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i lived in osaka for five years, and i don't recall ever hearing this. can't find any support in any of the standard refs or in a (brief) search online either. nothing we can do unless a solid ref surfaces, i think |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>懈い</keb>
@@ -16,1 +19,0 @@
-<gloss>feel heavy</gloss>
@@ -18,0 +20,2 @@
+<gloss>listless</gloss>
+<gloss>heavy (heart, legs, etc.)</gloss> |
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A* 2013-06-08 08:57:01 Marcus Richert
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came across an interesting usage of this word today in
Takatsuki, northern Osaka. I happened upon some kids (I'd
guess around 12-y-o) who had accidentally started a fire in
the reeds by the river. As the fire grew larger they kept
saying ”だるい!だるい!ほんまだるい!"
to me it seemed like they were using it in place of "やばい"
but my native-speaking friend who was with me suggested it
was more like "めんどい" (though she wasn't necessarily all
that familiar with this usage) |