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A 2022-03-02 01:00:58 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Does look a bit odd. I'll demote it. |
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@@ -16 +15,0 @@
-<gloss>oi!</gloss>
@@ -20,0 +20 @@
+<gloss>oi!</gloss> |
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A* 2022-03-01 21:47:47 Opencooper
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* JEs
* ahoy (OED): a call used to greet someone or draw attention to something from a distance |
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Interestingly, none of the JEs have the British "oi". |
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@@ -17 +17,4 @@
-<gloss>ahoy!</gloss>
+<gloss>say!</gloss>
+<gloss>I say!</gloss>
+<gloss>come on!</gloss>
+<gloss>look!</gloss> |
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A 2022-03-01 11:15:53 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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OK, I'll do that split. |
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@@ -9,7 +8,0 @@
-<reb>おおい</reb>
-<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>おーい</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -17,6 +9,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>オーイ</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>オオイ</reb> |
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A* 2022-01-26 09:09:19 Opencooper
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For 「おい」, daijr/nikk/gg5 have similar notes as daijs. But meikyo/koj only note the familiar part.
Regarding 「おおい」, daijs has: 「遠くの人に呼びかけるときの声」. So while they both might be used for calling out, the situation is different. Probably best to split the long variants out (without [fam,male]) and note that they're used at a distance. |
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A* 2022-01-26 08:22:54 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I don't think male is correct for おーい at least |
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A* 2022-01-26 05:11:17 Opencooper
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daijs: 主に男性が同輩・目下に対して用いる。 |
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@@ -25,0 +26,2 @@
+<misc>&fam;</misc>
+<misc>♂</misc> |
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A 2018-01-27 01:36:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Restoring the entry to its original form.In JMdict entries
with identical indexing fields, either kanji/kana combinations or kana-only, are not split. This is in contrast to other dictionaries which split them on source, etc.
One reason for maintaining this approach is to enable the unique linking of example sentences to entries in applications such as WWWJDIC, Jisho, etc. |
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@@ -29,0 +30,7 @@
+<sense>
+<stagr>おい</stagr>
+<pos>&pn;</pos>
+<dial>&ksb;</dial>
+<gloss>I</gloss>
+<gloss>me</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A* 2018-01-24 07:26:16 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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also, the Tanaka corpus tagging becomes ambiguous if we have entries with identical head words |
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A* 2018-01-24 00:27:49 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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In general for kana-only entries we include the different words with the same reading as separate senses in the one entry. This was done originally to simplify lookup procedures and avoid users only noticing one translation.
Printed dictionaries usually split them into distinct entries. |
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A* 2018-01-22 08:12:33 Nikolai Vavilov <...address hidden...>
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大辞林 |
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Splitting pronoun into 1968958. |
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@@ -30,7 +29,0 @@
-<sense>
-<stagr>おい</stagr>
-<pos>&pn;</pos>
-<dial>&ksb;</dial>
-<gloss>I</gloss>
-<gloss>me</gloss>
-</sense> |
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A 2016-10-15 22:15:07 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-10-15 16:00:08 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams
おい 17202064
おおい 779282
オイ 448557
おーい 355495
オーイ 19044
オオイ 2790 |
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hiragana first, then katakana, for readability |
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@@ -13,0 +14,9 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>オイ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>オーイ</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>オオイ</reb> |
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A* 2016-10-15 12:42:08 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
@@ -8,0 +10 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri> |
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A* 2016-10-15 12:31:55 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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G n-grams:
おい 17202064
おおい 779282
おーい 355495
Tanaka corpus has >20 おい (with this sense)
but only one おおい |
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@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>おい</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9,3 +11,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>おい</reb> |
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A 2014-01-03 11:24:16 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2014-01-03 11:18:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, etc. Ngrams. |
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Merging 2036600. |
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@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>おーい</reb>
@@ -13,0 +17 @@
+<gloss>ahoy!</gloss> |
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A 2013-03-26 06:07:18 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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none of my refs have any kanji for おい as a pronoun, but the pos was definitely wrong. do you have a ref for it with the kanji? |
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@@ -17,1 +17,1 @@
-<pos>∫</pos>
+<pos>&pn;</pos>
@@ -19,0 +19,1 @@
+<gloss>I</gloss> |
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A* 2013-03-25 22:39:00 Jean-Luc Leger <...address hidden...>
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To me, sense 2 is a pronoun [pn] and is written 俺, like in its plural form 1576880 俺等 [おいら] |