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A 2021-12-01 01:08:05 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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拉丁 909
羅甸 363
羅典 304
らてん 6147
ラテン 885202 |
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@@ -5,0 +6,2 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -8,0 +11,2 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +16,2 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,3 +19,0 @@
-<reb>らてん</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -18 +20,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/> |
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A 2021-10-23 19:59:51 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-10-23 14:49:22 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss>Latin</gloss>
+<gloss>Latin (i.e. relating to the literature, culture, etc. of ancient Rome)</gloss>
@@ -42 +41,0 @@
-<gloss g_type="expl">relating to the literature, culture, etc. of ancient Rome</gloss> |
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A 2020-06-02 13:53:31 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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uk is correct. I think you removed it in error. |
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+<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A 2020-06-01 21:20:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I agree. |
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@@ -31 +30,0 @@
-<misc>&uk;</misc> |
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A* 2020-05-30 23:09:49 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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Sense 2 can't be abbr if it's adj-f. |
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-<xref type="see" seq="1139330">ラテン語・ラテンご</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="1139330">ラテン語</xref>
@@ -30,3 +30 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2205010">ラテン音楽・ラテンおんがく</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1139310">ラテンアメリカ</xref>
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<xref type="see" seq="2205010">ラテン音楽</xref> |
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A 2016-10-14 09:29:55 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Fine. |
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A* 2016-10-14 08:48:02 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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-<gloss g_type="expl">relating to the literature, culture, etc. of Rome</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">relating to the literature, culture, etc. of ancient Rome</gloss> |
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A 2016-10-14 08:12:20 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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A* 2016-08-23 01:18:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Agree, but I still think ラテン as an abbreviation of ラテン語 should be distinct from ラテン as an adjective relating to things to do with Rome. |
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@@ -22,0 +23 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1139330">ラテン語・ラテンご</xref>
@@ -30,4 +31,2 @@
-<gloss>Latin (music, culture, etc.)</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1139310">ラテンアメリカ</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
@@ -38,0 +38,8 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2205030">ラテン文学</xref>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>Latin</gloss>
+<gloss>Roman</gloss>
+<gloss g_type="expl">relating to the literature, culture, etc. of Rome</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A* 2016-08-22 23:59:19 Mislav Blažević <...address hidden...>
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Your [2] and [3] are the same. I wanted to distinguish [1] pertaining to Roman culture (e.g. ラテン語、ラテン文学、ラテン文字) and [2] pertaining to Latin-American culture specifically (e.g. ラテン系[cf. ラテン民族]、ラテン音楽、ラテンダンス). |
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A* 2016-08-22 22:48:48 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj/Daijr (both have the abbr. of ラテン語 quite distinct.) GG5, etc. |
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I think it's appropriate to keep the language as a separate sense. I'm not sure that senses 2 & 3 are really different.
Note that kana-only forms don't go in the kanji area. |
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@@ -4,3 +3,0 @@
-<k_ele>
-<keb>ラテン</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -16,0 +14,3 @@
+<reb>らてん</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>らてん</reb>
-<re_restr>拉丁</re_restr>
-<re_restr>羅甸</re_restr>
-<re_restr>羅典</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1139330">ラテン語</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>Latin (language)</gloss>
+</sense>
@@ -29,3 +30,2 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1139330">ラテン語</xref>
-<misc>&uk;</misc>
-<gloss>Latin (e.g. language)</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="2205010">ラテン音楽・ラテンおんがく</xref>
+<gloss>Latin (music, culture, etc.)</gloss> |
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A* 2016-08-22 13:48:42 Mislav Blažević <...address hidden...>
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https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ラテン
http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=ラテン
研究者 大和英大辞典 |
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- alc only has compounds
- kenkyuusha doesn't have glosses for this entry but points to compounds instead
- according to wikipedia it's primarily used in compounds
- added 羅甸 (wikipedia and 1139330 have it)
- kanji is rarely used
Since [1] already xrefs to ラテン語, we could also xref [1] to ラテン文字, ラテン文学 and [2] to ラテンアメリカ, ラテン音楽 etc. if you think it's needed. |
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@@ -4,0 +5,3 @@
+<keb>ラテン</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
@@ -5,0 +9,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>羅甸</keb>
@@ -16,0 +23,3 @@
+<re_restr>拉丁</re_restr>
+<re_restr>羅甸</re_restr>
+<re_restr>羅典</re_restr>
@@ -19 +28 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
@@ -21,2 +30,2 @@
-<misc>&abbr;</misc>
-<gloss>Latin (language)</gloss>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<gloss>Latin (e.g. language)</gloss>
@@ -25 +34,2 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&adj-f;</pos>
+<misc>&uk;</misc> |