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ロマン [gai1] ；ローマン

[n] Source lang: fre "roman"
▶ romance (e.g. Arthurian romances)
▶ heroic tale

Cross references:
	⇐ see: 2837924 浪漫【ろうまん】 1. romance (e.g. Arthurian romances); heroic tale

[n]
▶ (nigh) impossible dream
▶ adventurous spirit
▶ great undertaking
▶ epic adventure

[n]
▶ (full-length) novel

[n]
▶ romance
▶ love affair

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1147950 ロマンス 2. love affair; romantic relationship

[n]
▶ romanticism

Cross references:
	⇒ see: 1148000 ロマンチシズム 1. romanticism
	⇒ see: 1560810 ロマン主義 1. romanticism

History:

12.	A 2021-11-10 17:31:55 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Moving lsrc tag to first sense.
	Diff:	@@ -12,0 +13 @@ +<lsource xml:lang="fre">roman</lsource> @@ -25 +25,0 @@ -<lsource xml:lang="fre">roman</lsource> @@ -37 +37 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1560810">ロマン主義・ロマンしゅぎ</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1560810">ロマン主義</xref>
11.	A 2019-01-31 00:30:25 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	We could add "state of being romantic", but it's hardly needed.
10.	A* 2019-01-25 22:50:10 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	I meant romanticism as in "the state or quality of being romantic."
9.	A 2019-01-25 07:25:58 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Romance and romanticism are not the same thing and should be in separate senses.
	Diff:	@@ -32,0 +33,5 @@ +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<xref type="see" seq="1148000">ロマンチシズム</xref> +<xref type="see" seq="1560810">ロマン主義・ロマンしゅぎ</xref>
8.	A* 2019-01-25 03:20:13 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Here's my go at it. I reinstated "Arthurian romance" for sense 1, as it's a good match of what's in daij. I changed the order of the other senses based on twitter recent hits and Google Images. sense 2 is GG5's ③, daijr ③, nikk ③. I got the "great undertaking" and "epic adventure" from daijr's definition.
	Diff:	@@ -13,3 +13,2 @@ -<lsource xml:lang="fre">roman</lsource> -<gloss>novel</gloss> -<gloss>roman</gloss> +<gloss>romance (e.g. Arthurian romances)</gloss> +<gloss>heroic tale</gloss> @@ -19,2 +18,9 @@ -<xref type="see" seq="1147950">ロマンス・1</xref> -<gloss>romance (film, novel)</gloss> +<gloss>(nigh) impossible dream</gloss> +<gloss>adventurous spirit</gloss> +<gloss>great undertaking</gloss> +<gloss>epic adventure</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<lsource xml:lang="fre">roman</lsource> +<gloss>(full-length) novel</gloss> @@ -27,6 +33 @@ -</sense> -<sense> -<pos>&n;</pos> -<gloss>adventurous spirit</gloss> -<gloss>impossible dream</gloss> -<gloss>great ambition</gloss> +<gloss>romanticism</gloss>
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7.	A* 2019-01-25 00:45:52 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	GG5 - sense 1: 〔散文物語･長篇小説〕 a roman 中辞典 - sense 2: 《フランス語》 roman - 〈(長編)小説〉 a novel. Daijirin - 2 小説-related senses.
	Comments:	I think the "novel" sense is needed.
	Diff:	@@ -14 +14,2 @@ -<gloss>romance (e.g. Arthurian romances)</gloss> +<gloss>novel</gloss> +<gloss>roman</gloss> @@ -18 +19,2 @@ -<gloss>romance (film or novel)</gloss> +<xref type="see" seq="1147950">ロマンス・1</xref> +<gloss>romance (film, novel)</gloss> @@ -21,0 +24 @@ +<xref type="see" seq="1147950">ロマンス・2</xref>
6.	A 2019-01-25 00:30:42 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	OK, I'm splitting the ateji versions off. I'll approve this as-is to lock in the split, then reopen it as I thiunk it needs a little attention.
	Diff:	@@ -4,11 +3,0 @@ -<k_ele> -<keb>浪漫</keb> -<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> -</k_ele> -<k_ele> -<keb>浪曼</keb> -<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> -</k_ele> -<r_ele> -<reb>ろうまん</reb> -</r_ele> @@ -17 +5,0 @@ -<re_nokanji/> @@ -22 +9,0 @@ -<re_nokanji/> @@ -26 +12,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -32 +17,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -37 +21,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -43 +26,0 @@ -<misc>&uk;</misc>
5.	A* 2019-01-21 01:37:53 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	Daijs only has 小説 but the 1980's Ghibli anime 風の谷のナウシカ was promoted with the tagline "スペクタクルロマン". I think ろうまん w the ateji's should be split out. As it's now, it would seem as if ろうまん is the most common reading while in the real world, ロマン dominates
	Diff:	@@ -5,0 +6 @@ +<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> @@ -8,0 +10 @@ +<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> @@ -31 +33 @@ -<gloss>novel</gloss> +<gloss>romance (film or novel)</gloss>
4.	A 2015-05-23 12:49:27 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
3.	A* 2015-05-21 20:40:55
	Refs:	n-grams (5:1)
	Diff:	@@ -23,0 +24 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -28,0 +30 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -32,0 +35 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc> @@ -37,0 +41 @@ +<misc>&uk;</misc>
2.	A 2012-08-12 23:47:16 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Daijr, GG5, 新和英中辞典, etc.
	Comments:	Not easy to get all the senses delineated.
	Diff:	@@ -25,1 +25,1 @@ -<gloss>romance (i.e. Arthurian romances)</gloss> +<gloss>romance (e.g. Arthurian romances)</gloss> @@ -34,0 +34,1 @@ +<gloss>love affair</gloss> @@ -37,1 +38,3 @@ -<gloss>adventurous spirit (e.g. a man's)</gloss> +<gloss>adventurous spirit</gloss> +<gloss>impossible dream</gloss> +<gloss>great ambition</gloss>
1.	A* 2012-08-12 21:04:00 Scott
	Refs:	gg5 koj
	Diff:	@@ -35,0 +35,4 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>adventurous spirit (e.g. a man's)</gloss> +</sense>

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