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A 2021-11-06 22:39:45 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-11-06 03:08:37 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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アジア 12663203
亜細亜 100702
less than 1%
large percentage of 亜細亜's hits are for 亜細亜大学
亜細亜 100702
亜細亜大学 33137
亜細亜の 18244
亜細亜大 11882
亜細亜大学の 6136 |
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rK ok? |
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@@ -7,2 +7 @@
-<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
-<ke_pri>nf26</ke_pri>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2020-07-25 23:51:23 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-07-25 14:47:15 Frazer Robinson <...address hidden...>
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Apologies for my typo in the n-grams check Jim.
I think Robin's suggestion works well because it retains the ateji information but makes it clear that アジア is the most common form, and as he said, this would be in line with other similar
entries. |
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A* 2020-07-25 14:19:18 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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あめりか 51601
いぎりす 11206 |
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Marcus commented in a fork: "Usually we keep them in the main entries. (them = rare/old ateji forms)"
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I don't think we need あじあ. アジア is the surface form in all the refs. We don't have hirgana forms on アメリカ, イギリス, etc. |
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@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -10,5 +10,0 @@
-<reb>あじあ</reb>
-<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf26</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
@@ -16 +11,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -21 +15,0 @@
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos> |
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A* 2020-07-25 11:48:37 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Koj: アジア【Asia・亜細亜】
Daijirin: online edition indexes 亜細亜 to アジア entry.
亜細亜 100702
あじあ 40338
アジア 12663203 |
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I don't feel a need to change this. With the "nokanji" tag on 亜細亜 we are really saying that the Japanese term has two forms: (a) 亜細亜 which is read あじあ, and (b) アジア. This is consistent with our style and microstructure.
A possible change is to drop the あじあ entirely. We do that for a number of ateji placenames (see the 盤谷 entry), but in this case the あじあ form is not uncommon, and probably should be retained. |
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A* 2020-07-25 09:16:12 Frazer Robinson <...address hidden...>
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Goog
亜細亜 100702
あしあ 6085
アジア 12663203
KM
亜細亜 3514
あじあ 422
アジア 416965
Daijr, wisdom
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/アジア |
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Daijr has the headword as アジア, with a note at the very end of the entry saying 亜細亜とも書く.
There’s no entry for 亜細亜 in wisdom.
The JP wiki page for アジア makes no mention of 亜細亜.
Should we make アジア the primary headword/reading here? If not, maybe we could do so in a separate entry? |
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A 2018-03-17 22:05:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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GG5, 中辞典 (アジアの Asian; Asiatic) |
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I think the "adj-no" should stay. |
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@@ -9,0 +10,5 @@
+<reb>あじあ</reb>
+<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
+<re_pri>nf26</re_pri>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
@@ -14,5 +18,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>あじあ</reb>
-<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
-<re_pri>nf26</re_pri>
-</r_ele>
@@ -20,0 +21 @@
+<pos>&adj-no;</pos> |
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A* 2018-03-17 07:34:47 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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simplifying
no evidence for esp. "the Far East" |
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-<gloss>Asia (esp. "the Far East")</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&adj-no;</pos>
-<gloss>Asian</gloss>
-<gloss>Asiatic</gloss>
+<gloss>Asia</gloss> |