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[adj-na]
▶ extra ▶ more ▶ too much ▶ too many ▶ excessive ▶ superfluous ▶ spare ▶ surplus |
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| 2. |
[adj-na]
▶ unnecessary ▶ needless ▶ uncalled-for ▶ unwanted ▶ uninvited |
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| 3. |
[adv]
▶ all the more ▶ even more |
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| 10. | A 2021-09-05 01:58:21 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | 余計 4318281 余計な 1936222 余計に 1516823 余計が 190 余計を 228 |
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| Comments: | Let's drop that note; it's behaving like any other 形容動詞. Definitely not a noun. Re Robin's "Despite what the kokugos say, I don't think any of these senses are nouns", I quite agree. Many 形容動詞 get [名] tags in the kokugos despite them demonstrably only being used as adjectives in modern Japanese. I think this is due to them conforming to "classical" grammatical concepts. We tend to tag them as "adj-na,n", I would be quite happy to cull the "n" where appropriate. I'll raise an issue on this. |
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| Diff: | @@ -18 +17,0 @@ -<s_inf>oft. adverbially as 余計に</s_inf> |
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| 9. | A* 2021-09-05 00:35:21 Robin Scott <...address hidden...> | |
| Refs: | daij, meikyo, prog, gg5 余計 4318281 余計を 228 余計が 190 |
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| Comments: | We're not very consistent when it comes to notes like this. But on 20 entries we have a note that says "oft. adverbially as ..." (or something similar). I prefer this to just "as ..." However, I'm not sure the note is even needed. Looking at the kokugo definitions and JE examples, I think these are the only glosses needed on sense 3. Despite what the kokugos say, I don't think any of these senses are nouns. Meikyo just has 形動/副. |
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| Diff: | @@ -18,2 +18,4 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> -<s_inf>often as 余計に</s_inf> +<s_inf>oft. adverbially as 余計に</s_inf> +<gloss>extra</gloss> +<gloss>more</gloss> +<gloss>too much</gloss> @@ -21 +22,0 @@ -<gloss>too much</gloss> @@ -24,2 +24,0 @@ -<gloss>superabundant</gloss> -<gloss>extra</gloss> @@ -31,2 +29,0 @@ -<pos>&adj-no;</pos> -<pos>&n;</pos> @@ -36 +33,2 @@ -<gloss>otiose</gloss> +<gloss>unwanted</gloss> +<gloss>uninvited</gloss> @@ -40,3 +37,0 @@ -<gloss>abundantly</gloss> -<gloss>excessively</gloss> -<gloss>needlessly</gloss> @@ -43,0 +39 @@ +<gloss>even more</gloss> |
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| 8. | A* 2021-09-04 06:02:38 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Comments: | I don't agree. Do any other editors have a view? A parallel is the 事前 entry, where we have "(often as 事前に)". |
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| 7. | A* 2021-09-04 02:00:45 | |
| Comments: | I think that's precisely why it's needed, a learner could misconstrue 余計に to be adjectival |
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| 6. | A 2021-09-04 00:29:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...> | |
| Comments: | Given that the POS is "adj-na" I think that is not needed. |
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| Diff: | @@ -19 +19 @@ -<s_inf>often adv. as 余計に</s_inf> +<s_inf>often as 余計に</s_inf> |
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